WEBVTT 00:03.857 --> 00:18.606 Welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International, and today's special format of discussion, which will be a discussion between two experts in the field, J.J. 00:18.727 --> 00:21.708 Cooey and Sukrit Bhakti. 00:21.769 --> 00:25.431 Both of them have presented on a number of occasions to us. 00:25.491 --> 00:27.212 We're so grateful that they have. 00:27.232 --> 00:30.454 And this group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost. 00:30.674 --> 00:32.635 I'm Charles Koves, the moderator. 00:33.686 --> 00:38.307 We comprise lots of professions here, and we're from all around the world. 00:38.347 --> 00:40.988 This group has been going for over three years. 00:42.788 --> 00:51.150 Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III, and that the medical science battle is only one of 12 battlefronts in this world war. 00:51.230 --> 01:02.433 But today we're focusing on the medical science battle, although I haven't been briefed precisely, Jay and Sukrit, how you're going to have this discussion, but we're very much looking forward to this. 01:04.261 --> 01:09.084 most of us understand the development of science and that the science is never settled. 01:10.525 --> 01:17.389 So we will listen to Jay and Sukrit for as long as they wish to discuss and then we'll have an opportunity for questions. 01:17.469 --> 01:20.731 Jay is only with us for an hour and a quarter from now. 01:22.565 --> 01:28.487 Jay, so thank you, Stephen Frost, for creating this group. 01:28.807 --> 01:30.568 Thank you, everyone, for being here. 01:31.048 --> 01:37.870 Sukrit and Jay, their CVs can be found on their presentations, so I won't go through those backgrounds. 01:38.891 --> 01:48.994 And Stephen, in terms of the format that you have discussed with Jay and Sukrit, we're just going to let them in. 01:49.614 --> 01:51.676 Charles, I'll just tell you as much as I know. 01:51.716 --> 01:57.579 So I spoke to JJ last night and to Sukrit too, but I didn't want to weigh down Sukrit. 01:57.619 --> 02:10.008 So I asked JJ what he thought and he said, could I just do a brief presentation to kind of, and obviously if Sukrit wants to do the same, that's fine. 02:10.248 --> 02:13.130 So I think JJ was thinking about 10, 15 minutes. 02:14.110 --> 02:16.272 And then I think the best thing would be if 02:17.335 --> 02:19.657 JJ and Sukrit could just talk. 02:20.137 --> 02:30.485 And I suggested to JJ that if I, you know, I think the aim of the exercise is to have a very interesting video. 02:30.505 --> 02:41.453 It doesn't, they don't have to agree on everything, but I think that make the video as interesting as possible. 02:41.753 --> 02:41.953 And, 02:42.834 --> 02:51.419 and so keeping in mind that it's a document which can be viewed by people all around the world in two years' time even, or five years' time. 02:53.560 --> 03:04.227 And I said that maybe, did I have his permission to interrupt if I thought that the meeting was going a little bit astray as far as what I think the public need to know? 03:05.147 --> 03:07.250 Absolutely, and I think that's fine. 03:07.630 --> 03:13.877 Yes, maybe Sukrit wouldn't agree, but I'll try not to interrupt Sukrit and JJ. 03:15.819 --> 03:16.600 Sure, go ahead. 03:18.323 --> 03:22.366 So if everybody's agreeing that I'm starting, I'm ready. 03:22.726 --> 03:24.968 Are you happy with that, Sigrid? 03:25.088 --> 03:25.888 You don't have to agree. 03:25.989 --> 03:26.629 Sure, sure. 03:27.129 --> 03:28.530 I'm happy with almost everything. 03:29.371 --> 03:36.096 If you are not seeing my screen now and me on my screen, then when I switch over here, you won't see me either. 03:37.037 --> 03:37.938 Yes, we can see that. 03:37.978 --> 03:39.419 Okay, Jay, it's okay. 03:40.319 --> 03:42.000 If you need to, you got to go to speaker view. 03:42.841 --> 03:49.445 So I come to you, Sukrit, and I'm going to make this a personal message because everyone here has seen me a lot of times. 03:49.485 --> 03:50.726 So we're all good friends here. 03:51.747 --> 03:57.851 But Sukrit and I actually first crossed paths in the original Doctors for COVID Ethics before it blew up. 03:58.651 --> 04:06.357 And I remember that those first few meetings very well, because the first time that I clicked on that Zoom meeting, and I saw you and 04:07.277 --> 04:10.959 And Wolfgang Wodock, I actually thought it wasn't going to last very much longer. 04:11.199 --> 04:16.622 And I'm coming to you as an American because I think America is actually under attack. 04:17.022 --> 04:27.147 I think we're being undermined from the inside by traders who are collaborating with other people in other nations that have similar problems to manage. 04:28.087 --> 04:49.078 And so I start this stream with like, or this explanation with like a little bit of words that have Fauci behind them and a little smoke, because I think there's a 30,000 foot message here that at the start of the pandemic, they convinced us to go home and get on social media and argue with the people that they put in front of us and argue about what they were arguing about. 04:49.739 --> 04:56.663 And by doing that, we actually accepted the premises of their narrative that included this crazy novel virus that everybody was vulnerable to. 04:57.523 --> 05:02.984 And this theater actually spans almost the entire mythology of what we've been following. 05:03.564 --> 05:08.345 And unfortunately for me as an American, a lot of my history is part of this mythology. 05:08.405 --> 05:14.926 We have been governed by stories about what we're doing in different countries and what we mean to do there and how we're spending our money. 05:15.446 --> 05:24.428 And we have been behind our TVs and cheering for our sports teams, not realizing that our government was out of our control for the last two or three decades. 05:25.268 --> 05:30.913 And so for me, it's very, very important to emphasize that I was particularly trapped on Twitter. 05:31.494 --> 05:38.540 And because Twitter was presented to me as this place where people were getting away with giving out information that the government didn't want them to give away with. 05:39.141 --> 05:45.927 And I got tied in with all of these people that have risen to be international heroes at COVID summits and 05:46.447 --> 05:48.448 and giving speeches in front of crowds. 05:48.528 --> 05:50.769 And all of these people know who I am. 05:50.789 --> 05:55.951 A lot of them even take selfies with me, but none of them will talk about the biology that I've come to understand. 05:56.911 --> 06:00.532 And if you can hear the noise there, that's the guy in that chair. 06:01.393 --> 06:12.317 For five years, I thought I was fighting Tony Fauci and Deborah Birx and the CDC and the lies that Peter Daszak had made some virus with the Chinese. 06:12.357 --> 06:14.818 And I thought I was fighting them by promoting these people. 06:16.179 --> 06:21.686 by trying to get on their podcast, by trying to argue with them, by trying to get them to notice me. 06:22.207 --> 06:25.171 And what I didn't realize was that was all part of that big game. 06:25.191 --> 06:29.617 And I don't want you to underestimate how much 06:30.979 --> 06:34.201 sort of UFO-like pain I've been through. 06:34.221 --> 06:37.564 And when I say UFO-like pain, I mean, I was totally in. 06:37.624 --> 06:39.565 I wanted to be a tenure track professor. 06:39.625 --> 06:40.666 I was a biologist. 06:41.146 --> 06:43.108 I wanted to learn the university system. 06:43.148 --> 06:44.769 I wanted to learn how to write grants. 06:45.309 --> 06:51.934 And so I would have given anything to keep my job at the beginning of the pandemic, but I also knew that something crazy was going on. 06:52.294 --> 06:55.917 And so at the beginning of the pandemic, I ended up getting fired from 06:56.437 --> 06:58.479 the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine. 06:58.499 --> 07:08.350 And as far as I know, I'm the only person in America that actually lost a job in 2020 with a track record of just doing academic biology and trying to make it. 07:08.410 --> 07:13.696 And in fact, my CV includes a Nobel Prize winning lab and five papers with them. 07:13.756 --> 07:17.720 So it's a little bit dubious for me that I'm the only 07:18.781 --> 07:19.942 I don't want to toot my own horn. 07:19.982 --> 07:26.364 I want you to see how desperate it is in America that actually all the Americans that have risen as heroes didn't lose anything. 07:27.064 --> 07:31.846 And in fact, my resume includes a whole year where I was employed by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 07:32.006 --> 07:34.447 and Children's Health Defense to help him write this book. 07:34.967 --> 07:38.108 And you can even see my name in the acknowledgments. 07:38.268 --> 07:45.571 And I worked for Children's Health Defense afterward for another six months before they fired me for talking about Robert Malone on my stream. 07:46.431 --> 07:59.541 And so I have been trying to teach people to understand that what they told us on the TV and in social media is not the truth, but also that I don't know what the truth is. 07:59.782 --> 08:00.982 I only know that they're lying. 08:01.023 --> 08:02.404 So I'm sorry I'm goofing around a little bit. 08:02.424 --> 08:04.785 I'm trying to get this window a little smaller there so I can see. 08:05.746 --> 08:18.292 I'd just like to say something that, from my perspective, we've had hundreds of guests on this channel, and so I've got used to listening to people saying various things about what's happened in the last four and a half years. 08:19.113 --> 08:27.117 And Sukrit Bhakti, Professor Dr. Sukrit Bhakti, Thai-German, and you, JJ Cooey, Dr. JJ Cooey, PhD, 08:28.567 --> 08:31.029 are the outstanding people on our side. 08:31.749 --> 08:34.050 Maybe Mike Eden as well. 08:34.311 --> 08:41.274 He was invited tonight, but I thought that he was a little bit hard to get, but he always is like that. 08:41.334 --> 08:45.096 So I thought actually it would benefit tonight. 08:45.157 --> 08:46.958 It would be good to have just you and 08:48.038 --> 09:02.404 Sukrit anyway and we can have Mike Eden another time but I think he's up there with you too but I think everyone in the world should listen to what you two have to say because I think from my perspective as a British medical doctor 09:03.685 --> 09:14.973 You are the two outstanding experts on COVID-19 and whether there was a pandemic or not, and whether there was in fact a disease called COVID-19, whether there was a new respiratory disease. 09:15.394 --> 09:17.996 I think you are the two guys who can work it out together. 09:18.902 --> 09:19.622 Thank you very much. 09:19.702 --> 09:22.164 And I think we have to work it out together as a story. 09:22.204 --> 09:28.468 And so the current narrative that all of us, most of us have been brought to understand is crucial. 09:28.568 --> 09:39.734 And if you watch this list and think about it as I read it, it should really bring into focus how even both sides of our countries have basically come to accept a middle ground narrative. 09:39.774 --> 09:40.475 The first one is, 09:41.115 --> 09:45.637 that the truth was definitely censored on social media in 2020 and 2021. 09:45.697 --> 09:55.360 The other part of this narrative is that a novel virus swept the world, including twice in 2021, because there was a variant and then there was Omicron, and everybody got both of those. 09:56.280 --> 10:02.963 The shortage or overuse, depending on who you talk to, sometimes it was a shortage, sometimes it was overuse of ventilators killed people. 10:03.663 --> 10:09.265 There was no expected rise of all cause mortality, all the novel deaths, all the excess deaths, 10:09.805 --> 10:12.709 in these countries were a result of this novel virus. 10:13.590 --> 10:23.781 We rushed the rollout of this new technology, and that saved people, but we made a lot of mistakes with it, and now it's starting to come out what kinds of mistakes we might have made by rushing it. 10:24.722 --> 10:40.099 And then once we stop using this toxic spike protein, when once we clean up the DNA contamination, the methodology of transfection, which is what it was called when it was sold as many different products before 2020, transfection is good to go to use in humans forever. 10:40.119 --> 10:41.281 That's where we are. 10:41.761 --> 10:44.865 And in fact, we are where most people have come to accept that 10:45.305 --> 10:54.133 The old vaccines and the new vaccines remain a wonderfully, wonderful, great way to augment the immune system via intramuscular injection. 10:54.193 --> 10:58.577 That's where most people on the planet are in most Western countries. 10:58.637 --> 11:11.629 And this terrifies me because after five years going from a complete naive academic biologist to a full-blown skeptic, I've come to understand biology 11:13.044 --> 11:15.885 well enough to be able to explain why this isn't true. 11:15.985 --> 11:33.173 So if you take this, and I just want to make sure we're doing all the same mental exercise here, if you take this and try to explain this little part of the graph down here, if you can see my arrow, this little part of the graph down here, if you try to explain it with a pie graph, what you might do is say that the red is 32% COVID, 11:35.234 --> 11:37.815 The yellow is vents and protocols. 11:37.855 --> 11:38.796 We killed some people. 11:39.656 --> 11:43.698 The vaccines are now hurting a lot of people, and they hurt a lot of people after 2021. 11:44.859 --> 11:47.020 And then, of course, there are just these people that died. 11:47.060 --> 11:51.722 And so that's how the mainstream narrative would explain what happened here. 11:51.742 --> 11:52.542 We had a virus. 11:53.123 --> 11:54.363 We also had a response. 11:54.443 --> 11:55.484 Some of it was botched. 11:55.864 --> 11:58.685 Some people committed suicide because of the lockdown, all that stuff. 11:59.066 --> 12:00.286 That's all wrapped up in here. 12:00.326 --> 12:03.468 And we have all come to accept that that's just what happens when there's a crisis. 12:04.676 --> 12:07.777 Now, I would argue that that's absolutely not the case. 12:07.817 --> 12:09.078 Let's start with the first one. 12:09.178 --> 12:12.979 Truth wasn't censored on Twitter and social media. 12:13.039 --> 12:20.321 Truth was faux-censored on Twitter, and people followed the people who got to go on Tucker Carlson and complain about it. 12:20.742 --> 12:24.763 People followed the people who got censored on LinkedIn and then went to Gab. 12:25.203 --> 12:27.585 and went to Telegram and went to locals. 12:28.005 --> 12:39.394 And so actually they got us to perform several times via our phone and our social media, a literal button push to tell them that we were the dissidents and what we were doing and what we were willing to do. 12:39.795 --> 12:41.376 Were you willing to log into another 12:41.876 --> 12:42.756 another platform? 12:42.796 --> 12:45.637 Were you willing to give your credit card again? 12:45.677 --> 12:46.357 This kind of thing. 12:46.417 --> 12:48.737 So did a novel virus sweep the world? 12:49.478 --> 12:50.138 I don't think so. 12:50.198 --> 13:03.120 I think a background noise was misconstrued as novel spread, and I can explain how that is absolutely undifferentiatable from what they say they have as 16 million sequences of SARS-CoV-2. 13:03.540 --> 13:06.421 The shortage or overuse of ventilators killed people. 13:06.521 --> 13:09.862 I've challenged every doctor that I've ever been able to talk to to 13:11.542 --> 13:17.985 figure out whether they already knew that pure oxygen can cause acute respiratory distress syndrome. 13:18.466 --> 13:24.309 Because in the literature, I have accumulated more than a thousand articles from 13:25.586 --> 13:35.091 before the pandemic, but many of them even predate 1990, where people realized that in the ICU, if you give somebody pure oxygen, they're going to go south. 13:35.171 --> 13:35.791 And why? 13:35.872 --> 13:38.333 And then they experimented with actually all the way down to 80%. 13:39.133 --> 13:47.458 If you give it to them pure, not the right way, without monitoring, you can drive them right into ARDS, which will lead to bacterial pneumonia and sepsis and everything else. 13:48.098 --> 14:00.125 And so that literature is very strangely contrasting with what we did in America, which is we had people like Pierre Corey going in front of the Senate telling people that they were low on oxygen in New York City. 14:00.165 --> 14:04.587 And the way they solved it was giving them pure oxygen up to 60 liters a minute. 14:06.789 --> 14:10.953 and this murdered people, and then they called it COVID in the hospital. 14:11.433 --> 14:15.396 There was no expected rise in all-cause mortality on the radar of any country. 14:15.436 --> 14:16.557 That's an absolute lie. 14:16.597 --> 14:33.411 We've known since the 80s that because we had big families after World War II, and then the family size slowly decreased, while at the same time, our ability to keep people alive and take care of people at end-of-life care has greatly increased in our for-profit healthcare system. 14:34.472 --> 14:44.759 Medicare is half of America's budget, and America has known for the last 15 or 20 years that if we let these baby boomers age out on Medicare, we will go bankrupt. 14:45.400 --> 14:50.664 There's footage of Ted Turner talking about this on TV in the 90s that I remembered. 14:51.204 --> 14:55.747 So this is not something that all these countries didn't know was going to happen, and guess what? 14:56.248 --> 14:58.169 The Chinese also had this problem. 14:58.189 --> 15:01.892 That's why they instituted the one-child policy in the first place. 15:01.932 --> 15:12.640 So we were at a time frame when all these countries were going to have an inconvenient level of all-cause mortality, and they had a real bona fide reason to manage it. 15:13.320 --> 15:15.263 So we rushed out a new technology. 15:15.323 --> 15:15.864 No, we didn't. 15:16.405 --> 15:20.951 We rushed it out in the guise of a crisis so that we could hide the expected downsides. 15:20.991 --> 15:23.975 We've always known transfection wouldn't work in healthy humans. 15:24.436 --> 15:28.862 That's why it was only tested on cancer patients and other people that were going to die before the pandemic. 15:29.463 --> 15:39.985 So we accept this technology and we'll never be able to evaluate vaccination again because it starts to become a platform where you substitute what you put in as a cassette. 15:40.045 --> 15:46.947 And so they're casting a spell on you to think that once this methodology is proven, then we can put any Lego we want in there. 15:47.387 --> 15:53.248 And if that Lego is bad, well, we'll just fix the Lego instead of fixing the methodology when the methodology was bunk from the start. 15:53.948 --> 15:56.011 So vaccines remain a wonderfully great way? 15:56.031 --> 15:56.992 I would say no. 15:57.072 --> 16:02.899 I would say intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb. 16:03.679 --> 16:06.903 If there are exceptions to that rule, then let's find them. 16:06.923 --> 16:10.507 But I don't think there are very many, and none of them have to do with viruses. 16:11.168 --> 16:12.470 Now, if this is the truth, 16:13.752 --> 16:25.735 then we would explain what happened in 2020 and 2021 very differently, because we would have expected a rise in all-cause mortality in all of these countries that agreed to the new normal and build back better. 16:26.656 --> 16:31.157 All these countries had exactly the same problem, and so they expected a lot of people to die. 16:31.717 --> 16:37.959 And so what better way to manage these people than to murder them instead of keep them alive for the last year of their life? 16:38.439 --> 16:58.341 And so many countries had this problem, it's very hard to underestimate how easily they could have done it if they just used pure oxygen, or if they just starved people in the hospitals of Scotland, in the care homes of Scotland, or let them die of thirst, or urinary tract infection, because you know, antibiotics don't work on a viral disease. 17:01.450 --> 17:05.431 So I think I can summarize this best in four basic headlines. 17:05.511 --> 17:08.112 And so I would like you to ask questions based on these headlines. 17:08.172 --> 17:10.712 And I'm going to go real quick now because I want you to have time. 17:11.593 --> 17:17.254 The biological and actuarial backgrounds have been ignored by so many actuaries and so many virologists. 17:17.314 --> 17:24.976 So I'm going to explain why there can be a background signal that we would never have known about before the pandemic simply because we weren't testing for it. 17:25.276 --> 17:28.377 And of course, what this actuarial background is. 17:29.531 --> 17:36.653 Murder in America was by opioids, number one, because we've lost almost a half a million Americans to opioids in the last four years. 17:36.693 --> 17:39.454 And you have to subtract those people from the COVID numbers. 17:39.474 --> 17:42.675 And if you do that, it's kind of like, bump, bump, ba-dum. 17:43.156 --> 17:44.196 There's not a lot left. 17:44.616 --> 17:47.697 And especially from the fact that those people are of all age groups. 17:47.737 --> 17:55.680 So the perceived decrease in life expectancy in America isn't from COVID, as Pierre Cory and 17:56.480 --> 17:58.502 and Tony Fauci would like you to believe. 17:59.322 --> 18:04.086 Pure oxygen murdered people, no antibiotics, and using steroids also murdered people. 18:04.126 --> 18:16.314 You can ask Robert Malone about that, because he joked about that on a podcast in 2021, where he explained that people were given dexamethasone, which is a hammer for their immune system, and then sent back to care homes to die of pneumonia. 18:16.374 --> 18:16.955 Again, because 18:17.655 --> 18:19.637 Antibiotics don't work on a viral pneumonia. 18:19.717 --> 18:22.900 And then, of course, hospital neglect was all over the world. 18:23.000 --> 18:31.427 My father-in-law died of a urinary tract infection, and my sister-in-law had to take three or four vaccines in order to keep getting chemo in the Netherlands. 18:32.528 --> 18:39.053 PCR can be extremely high resolution on a university academic bench, but also nonsense for good 18:39.393 --> 18:43.996 for PCR in COVID, and none of these people in five years have been able to explain that. 18:44.576 --> 18:59.104 And finally, RNA biology does not support the premises of a pandemic, and this is a coronavirus sub-protein, and this is a drug you might be familiar with, and the only reason why any of these people can make an argument about 18:59.964 --> 19:04.407 coronavirus is being able to pandemic is because of these two little hints here. 19:04.447 --> 19:05.628 So we can talk about that too. 19:05.668 --> 19:06.969 So I'll explain it really quick. 19:07.029 --> 19:07.949 First, the biology. 19:08.810 --> 19:12.772 Everybody before the pandemic agreed that endemicity would be the scariest thing. 19:12.872 --> 19:16.755 From before the pandemic, people were talking about how if a bat cave virus gets out, 19:17.315 --> 19:25.662 The craziest thing would be as if it becomes endemic and contributes to this already terrible background of death that Mother Nature provides for us. 19:25.702 --> 19:28.984 So that is impossible to differentiate. 19:29.004 --> 19:30.025 This is endemicity. 19:30.065 --> 19:34.429 It's leaked in a mud puddle in Wuhan and suddenly it's everywhere, including in white-tailed deer. 19:35.572 --> 19:46.727 The endemicity is undifferentiated from an already existing background that the biosecurity state carefully characterized before 2020 because we don't have any data from before 2020. 19:46.908 --> 19:48.830 And isn't that convenient for them? 19:49.771 --> 19:50.613 Not one test. 19:51.815 --> 19:52.175 Nothing. 19:52.435 --> 20:05.818 Yet before, when the pandemic rolled out, I don't know if Senator Ron Johnson's aware, but at some point in 2021, we had over 200 EUA authorized diagnostics for COVID-19 that are all off the market now. 20:05.858 --> 20:06.579 They're all gone. 20:06.599 --> 20:11.940 And so the whole, the illusion of this background could have easily been sustained by any number of 20:12.760 --> 20:16.663 of, let's say, less than happy actors there. 20:16.723 --> 20:27.410 So the biological part can also be replaced by an actuarial part, because again, as I said, the population pyramid of America was top heavy. 20:27.530 --> 20:28.771 And these are bad numbers. 20:28.831 --> 20:30.212 I don't know where these numbers come from. 20:30.252 --> 20:42.380 I don't think these are probably accurate, because the real accurate numbers would show you exactly how much of a phenomenon was coming for the next five years that will go away in five years, because these old people will be gone. 20:43.680 --> 20:44.981 And they knew that was coming. 20:45.121 --> 20:48.242 I can't stress enough how all of these countries have known it was coming. 20:48.902 --> 21:02.388 And in fact, countries like the Netherlands and probably Germany, if you look into it, Canada, and China all had this problem that if they would have mismanagement of this problem would have left them with hospitals and care homes full of old people. 21:02.968 --> 21:09.670 And just countless amounts of money being spent on these, the last years of their lives. 21:09.710 --> 21:10.731 And so in America, 21:11.491 --> 21:19.877 with the opioid crisis, with supplementary oxygen, but also with lack of antibiotics, used ventilators, remdesivir, midazolam, all of these things. 21:20.017 --> 21:22.859 Do not resuscitate orders, fear, frustration, and doubt. 21:22.899 --> 21:26.742 People doing crazy stuff, yes, but they only had to do a little bit. 21:27.878 --> 21:32.122 They only had to do a little bit because the vast majority of this was expected. 21:32.182 --> 21:47.915 So if they used a military operation to sweep a few together in New York and a few other places, and then got a bunch of people on social media to scream with burning hair about it, it becomes very easy to cover up murder and lies and say that it's the start of a novel pandemic. 21:48.815 --> 21:50.056 And that's why I call it murder. 21:51.127 --> 21:53.748 And so these people are getting away with it by not talking about 2020. 21:54.408 --> 22:02.131 If you're wondering, there's a Scottish care home study and whatever that's been coming out a couple of years in a row now. 22:02.651 --> 22:05.432 It's just devastatingly obvious that they murdered people there. 22:05.812 --> 22:09.793 If you look at just the midazolam numbers for 2020, you can see the spike of murder. 22:09.813 --> 22:12.634 It's just very easy to see what they did. 22:12.674 --> 22:14.055 And it was a coordinated effort. 22:14.875 --> 22:25.524 And what's really scary is that all the people that were really into the pandemic in 2020, when I was still a faculty member at the University of Pittsburgh, didn't have any of these ideas in their head. 22:26.155 --> 22:30.038 They had no idea that there was an expected rise in all-cause mortality. 22:30.078 --> 22:35.983 They had no idea that oxygen could kill people if it was given to people at 60 liters a minute. 22:36.023 --> 22:42.028 Instead, they were super fired up about a fear and cleavage site that they were sure meant that it was a gain-of-function virus. 22:42.048 --> 22:46.832 They were sure that mitochondrial damage was happening or that the virus was going up the olfactory nerve. 22:47.560 --> 23:05.571 And so all of these people were singing from the rooftops with different parts of a narrative that actually had nothing to do with what was going on, but were there just to cover up the murder and lies and make it easier for them to roll out the transfection because these same people are still in front of us in social media today. 23:05.611 --> 23:11.394 They still get in front of the Senate for the sixth time or the fourth time or whatever, they're all the same people. 23:12.035 --> 23:15.597 And these are people that are connected to this narrative, which has replaced 23:17.095 --> 23:25.608 a mystery virus Scooby-Doo story with what are actually the biology expected if they started transfecting people to new proteins. 23:26.434 --> 23:35.577 And we knew all this from all the transfection that we've done on our bench, all the transfection trials that we've done since Jesse Gelsinger and beyond in humans. 23:36.197 --> 23:40.159 We've known exactly what we needed to do in order to get this stuff out. 23:40.439 --> 23:42.199 And we needed a crisis to get it out. 23:42.800 --> 23:49.762 And we needed a crisis that we could tie all these bad things that we knew would happen anytime somebody got a hot batch and actually transfected 23:50.993 --> 23:51.995 with a placebo. 23:52.195 --> 23:54.138 So you just put a bunch of placebos out there. 23:54.199 --> 23:56.843 You can meet any manufacturing quota you want. 23:56.863 --> 24:02.773 In the meantime, you can use your databases and whatever else to keep track of those lots that are actually hot. 24:03.965 --> 24:09.027 And so that's the reason why no one will talk about the background signal and why it could be misconstrued as spread. 24:09.307 --> 24:31.177 Most of the illusion is dismissed already there, especially if you tie into the fact that all of the people that have been in front of us have never been able to adequately and succinctly explain how PCR can be very accurate in a university and ridiculously aspecific on a hot background with a bunch of random companies making them, especially from China. 24:31.957 --> 24:34.919 Define the countermeasures as transformations and transfections. 24:34.979 --> 24:42.124 I don't know if you're aware, Sukrit, but before the pandemic, using adenovirus to express a protein was called transformation. 24:42.604 --> 24:57.154 And using naked DNA or mRNA in a gene gun with gold particles or with lipofectamine or with centrifugation or with electroporation, that was all called transfection. 24:57.754 --> 25:03.318 And so there were companies that were selling a whole catalog of products under the headline transfection. 25:03.739 --> 25:08.102 And at the beginning of the pandemic, my government called those investigational vaccines. 25:09.343 --> 25:11.424 That's an obvious truth that no one is saying. 25:11.464 --> 25:17.949 So even in the purest form, these chemically altered RNAs would have never been able to produce a high-fidelity protein. 25:18.349 --> 25:22.052 These RNAs would have never been able to be produced in their pure form. 25:22.112 --> 25:26.556 And anybody that's worked in a pharmaceutical company where they make biologics like 25:27.216 --> 25:35.920 And like a monoclonal antibody, they all know that you can't make a pure, pure, pure RNA, that there will be these fragmented RNAs. 25:35.961 --> 25:41.984 And all of these biologists ought to know that tiny RNAs, micro RNAs, small interfering RNAs, these are all 25:42.944 --> 25:50.053 points of regulation that we barely even understand and don't want to mess with an unknown quantity. 25:50.073 --> 25:57.904 And then finally, this might bother you a little bit for the last five years, but there's been all these people going around saying that there's no virus. 25:58.064 --> 26:00.767 And I think I finally figured out what their problem is. 26:01.628 --> 26:24.233 They're trying to help cover this up too, because if they weren't trying to help cover this up, then they would have already taken number five and run with it, which is that if you go back to the virology literature, especially with regard to RNA viruses, you will find that people go into the wild and they find a signal using PCR or sequencing, but then they don't grow that signal in a culture dish. 26:24.453 --> 26:25.933 They don't grow that signal by 26:26.593 --> 26:28.194 by swabbing a lot of bats. 26:28.234 --> 26:45.589 What they do is they order that signal from a synthetic DNA manufacturer, they assemble it, and then they amplify it in a bacterial culture and then using a commercial RNA polymerase, they can turn it into RNA and then put that RNA on their cell culture and call that virology. 26:45.629 --> 26:52.515 But they're starting with a pure quantity of the RNA that they claim to have found in the wild that they could never produce by any other means. 26:53.115 --> 26:56.196 And that is the main illusion that occurs in virology. 26:56.216 --> 26:59.578 And so even those papers that are called gain of function are done this way. 27:00.118 --> 27:02.038 And so I can explain that again, if it's necessary. 27:02.078 --> 27:11.222 And finally, I think the shortcut is to say, RNA cannot pandemic because it's not, it doesn't have the same biology that we've attributed to the magic molecule of DNA. 27:11.242 --> 27:11.882 It just doesn't. 27:11.942 --> 27:15.844 And so that's another thing that a lot of these biologists should have done known better. 27:15.904 --> 27:16.024 So 27:17.024 --> 27:20.806 The summary, again, this narrative that they told us on TV isn't true. 27:20.886 --> 27:23.147 They didn't censor the truth at the beginning. 27:24.127 --> 27:26.688 They got us to follow the people that they censored. 27:26.808 --> 27:28.569 And those people have been fooling us. 27:29.510 --> 27:30.750 There wasn't a novel virus. 27:30.790 --> 27:36.733 There was a background signal that can't be differentiated from what they call a virus going endemic. 27:36.813 --> 27:39.314 And I think it's very damning that you can find 27:39.934 --> 27:47.102 lectures from a long time ago that predate all the way to 2002 with the original SARS, where they're talking about endemicity as the scary thing. 27:47.142 --> 27:52.267 That's 10 years of time to characterize a background that they then lied to us about. 27:52.687 --> 27:59.534 The shortage of ventilators, or Elon Musk going to make ventilators, or Donald Trump going to ship ventilators to New York. 27:59.554 --> 28:00.615 This is all nonsense. 28:01.136 --> 28:02.257 In fact, they were running 28:02.677 --> 28:11.143 an oxygen plant on the ship Comfort in New York City and running this narrative about everybody if you don't have vents you can give them oxygen and that is absolutely murder. 28:11.763 --> 28:16.406 And I know at least one man, my friend Scott, whose daughter was murdered just like that. 28:17.206 --> 28:19.828 There's a huge rise in expect at all cause mortality. 28:19.868 --> 28:20.669 That's a big one. 28:21.649 --> 28:22.530 We didn't rush it out. 28:23.511 --> 28:28.494 We actually did this on purpose because otherwise transfection would have never been accepted by everyone. 28:29.695 --> 28:35.578 And this lie about the spike or this lie about, I don't know what they're talking about. 28:35.618 --> 28:47.746 Those all things might be true, but transfection to any foreign protein, and I know Sukrit will agree with this, because this is who I learned it from, transfection to any foreign protein is going to challenge the immune system to attack itself. 28:47.846 --> 28:49.627 And it's going to make mistakes. 28:49.687 --> 28:51.088 It can't do that flawlessly. 28:51.128 --> 28:52.328 It's a terrible idea. 28:53.249 --> 28:55.811 And you're also augmenting the immune system. 28:56.511 --> 29:06.323 intramuscularly, I think is a very dubious claim of methodology, because as Sukrit can tell you, the immune system is oriented, it's oriented inside out. 29:06.383 --> 29:11.669 And so augmenting it not at a barrier, but behind the barrier is just insane, especially for 29:12.269 --> 29:13.650 a respiratory, whatever. 29:14.331 --> 29:15.492 And that's why we are here. 29:15.592 --> 29:23.858 We are here where people like Steve Kirsch is saying that maybe in five years we'll have safe vaccines in America if Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 29:23.878 --> 29:24.539 makes them safe. 29:24.599 --> 29:31.204 And we have Elon Musk actually saying that the reason why we don't have smallpox in America is because of the smallpox vaccine still. 29:31.264 --> 29:32.064 And it's scary. 29:33.065 --> 29:41.252 They are, I need your help, Sucrit, because you and other people from Europe can look at your own vaccine schedule and compare the calendar. 29:41.952 --> 29:49.018 And quantity and you can see that my vaccine schedule in America is criminal and it's evidence that these people are criminals. 29:49.639 --> 29:56.865 And you can help because you don't even have to say anything about Germany, you can just evaluate what I'm showing you and follow up on this. 29:58.167 --> 30:08.936 I really think I can explain any of these in detail that you want to, and the way that I would summarize it is intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb. 30:08.996 --> 30:13.940 Transfection in healthy humans was always criminal, and RNA cannot pandemic. 30:15.081 --> 30:21.126 Please try and see if any of that, we can discuss any of that. 30:22.888 --> 30:23.188 Thank you. 30:25.091 --> 30:31.036 And most importantly, from my point of view as a medical doctor, was there a pandemic or wasn't there? 30:31.716 --> 30:39.302 And in fact, is it possible that pandemics are not possible in the future and haven't been in the past? 30:39.782 --> 30:55.888 So the whole thing about pandemics was a construct for these criminals, in my opinion, and they've been working up to it, trying to undermine the influence of immunologists who know about the wonderful immune system of all animals, including human beings. 30:57.308 --> 31:17.294 and handing it over to the virologists, whose duty, in my opinion, to all these criminals was to push virology, to hide the immunology, so that human beings, mere human beings, could actually be hubristic and say they know better than God, whoever God is. 31:18.840 --> 31:26.482 So I think this is anti-human and it's really important that we get to the bottom of this about whether pandemics are possible. 31:26.782 --> 31:29.883 We were taught at medical school, a deadly virus kills its host. 31:30.563 --> 31:38.025 I asked the immunologist, the immunology professor at the time, I was a medical student, I didn't even know why I was asking the question. 31:38.686 --> 31:41.526 I said, does that mean that pandemics are not possible? 31:41.986 --> 31:47.468 And the immunologist professor said, very good, Stephen, but I had no idea why he said very good. 31:49.679 --> 31:50.740 I don't know what he knew. 31:50.960 --> 31:54.063 Looking back, I didn't know what he knew at the time. 31:55.064 --> 31:57.666 Can I chime in? 31:58.107 --> 31:58.347 Sure. 31:58.367 --> 31:59.968 It's your go, Sukrit. 32:00.849 --> 32:02.170 Well, I'm going to be very short. 32:03.592 --> 32:07.935 Jay, I have nothing to add to anything you said. 32:07.955 --> 32:12.499 I completely agree, so there's not going to be any discussion on this. 32:14.252 --> 32:40.895 The only point I want to make to you, Jay, is that I have specifically and intentionally always avoided any discussion on the topic of virus or no virus, because I felt that it was better to avoid this discussion in order to not lose time and effort 32:41.798 --> 32:43.900 on a topic that was not really relevant. 32:44.000 --> 32:59.132 It's not relevant because what is really relevant now is that we have to stop this rollout of the RNA and vector vaccines. 32:59.552 --> 33:01.594 This is what we have to try to do. 33:02.674 --> 33:10.561 And as everyone who is listening today know, the WHO declared, what was this over a year ago, 33:11.496 --> 33:22.722 that it was their intent to install RNA vaccinations in veterinary medicine and human medicine. 33:23.963 --> 33:30.226 And as you yourself said, Jay, it's a cassette that has been put into a recorder, okay? 33:30.647 --> 33:33.268 And there's no control anymore. 33:33.788 --> 33:35.910 So my soul, 33:37.170 --> 33:46.400 My sole purpose in the next weeks and months is my sole intent is to try to stop this and to get you guys to stop it. 33:46.860 --> 33:51.745 Now, the second thing was the question about pandemic. 33:52.626 --> 33:59.750 And, Stephen, your immunology professor said, very good, because the question was very good. 34:00.551 --> 34:11.296 And of course, as I've been trying to say for four years now, there is no pandemic, there was no pandemic, and there will be no pandemic. 34:11.977 --> 34:12.097 And 34:15.120 --> 34:18.443 It's like Jay said, the RNA can't pandemic. 34:18.643 --> 34:19.124 It can't. 34:19.745 --> 34:23.508 And there's no reason to discuss this anymore because it's clear. 34:23.528 --> 34:28.613 And if it's clear, we shouldn't waste time talking about it. 34:30.054 --> 34:35.319 So anyone who comes up and says there was a pandemic, he should prove that there was one. 34:35.660 --> 34:38.642 It's not we who have to show that there was no pandemic. 34:39.323 --> 34:39.843 But in fact, 34:40.936 --> 34:43.918 no numbers will support that statement. 34:44.798 --> 34:47.399 No one has any numbers that can support that statement. 34:48.340 --> 35:00.466 So that is actually all I wanted to say as a comment to what Jay said, because I have no comments except that I agree entirely with everything that he has said. 35:02.910 --> 35:13.915 So, Greg, can I ask you, how do you think we should, do you think that what JJ is saying, and I've been saying this for a long time, that we need to create our own narrative. 35:14.416 --> 35:15.536 It's really important. 35:15.756 --> 35:19.158 We don't need to discuss with the people who don't agree with us. 35:19.618 --> 35:25.661 We need to tell the public what we know, and we haven't done that properly so far. 35:25.701 --> 35:28.343 All right, Stephen, sorry, I'm sorry. 35:29.825 --> 35:32.268 I there, I disagree. 35:33.249 --> 35:35.833 I don't think we can succeed. 35:36.394 --> 35:37.255 It's impossible. 35:37.756 --> 35:42.963 It's impossible to transmit this knowledge to laypeople. 35:43.908 --> 35:45.108 It's just too difficult. 35:45.288 --> 35:46.369 It's too difficult. 35:46.889 --> 35:53.651 I've spent a lot of time and effort trying to transmit the simplest things. 35:54.151 --> 36:02.154 I mean, Jay went into some depth, and that makes it impossible to reach the vast majority of people. 36:02.814 --> 36:12.778 So what I think, and this is what I want to propose to all of you today, and I'm so glad that people like Ron Johnson is there, Vera Sharaf is here. 36:13.678 --> 36:16.119 Hello, everyone. 36:17.660 --> 36:28.786 But you are the people who can now take over and you have the power to do so. 36:29.386 --> 36:32.267 You have this laser sword, okay? 36:32.608 --> 36:33.608 Star Wars. 36:34.869 --> 36:43.233 Because, and this is what I want to bring home today, the Robert Koch files have given you this instrument 36:44.537 --> 36:52.501 They have given you a present that is more precious than anything that has happened in the last five years. 36:53.341 --> 37:01.806 So I wanted to ask you, I think there are 78 participants, who knows about the Robert Koch files? 37:02.886 --> 37:04.387 Stephen, what do you know? 37:05.905 --> 37:08.287 I haven't had time to look into that secret. 37:09.788 --> 37:12.350 Well, then I tell you, all of you. 37:12.370 --> 37:15.553 I advise all of you. 37:16.834 --> 37:22.398 May I ask the 78 of you who are here, who knows about the Robert Koch files? 37:23.099 --> 37:24.560 I think Nick Hudson probably does. 37:24.840 --> 37:26.501 Yeah, and they always got it under. 37:27.482 --> 37:28.102 Nick, are you here? 37:28.123 --> 37:29.143 Yeah, he's there. 37:30.104 --> 37:30.925 Nick, what are you saying? 37:31.894 --> 37:33.377 It's been a long time since we spoke. 37:33.397 --> 37:34.259 What does that tell you? 37:43.223 --> 37:56.788 Well, we were looking at them very closely and there are a number of inconsistencies, but I mean, let's put the inconsistencies in our concern regarding the changing nature of the disclosures over time. 37:57.149 --> 38:01.270 And the disclosures come, just to explain to the audience, the disclosures come in two formats. 38:01.310 --> 38:04.732 There's a leak and there's the equivalent of an American FOIA. 38:05.792 --> 38:12.136 and their incompatibilities, their signs of editing of documents, including emails. 38:12.797 --> 38:22.483 So the provenance of these files and the manner of the leaks and FOIAs does register some concern with us, I mean, looking into it. 38:22.523 --> 38:24.884 So that's why we've been a little bit cagey. 38:25.025 --> 38:33.750 And I would encourage everybody to follow Robert Kogan, who's one of the most heavily suppressed people on social media in general. 38:35.231 --> 38:36.051 and his articles. 38:36.191 --> 38:52.438 But just to answer Sukharit's question, there's a claim made by RKI that the entire story was politically motivated and that they were engineering results to suit political ends. 38:53.438 --> 38:56.659 And so I agree with Sukharit, just that alone 38:58.420 --> 39:01.742 is worth the price of admission. 39:02.403 --> 39:20.316 But there's a concern there, because it's also patently clear that the Robert Koch Institute had been engineering itself for years, possibly even decades, towards the end goal of proselytizing a fake pandemic. 39:21.295 --> 39:29.338 Sukrit, I'd be curious to hear whether you think I've picked out the important parts or there are other features that deserve mention. 39:29.859 --> 39:30.739 Yes, certainly. 39:31.779 --> 39:45.165 What you last said was, of course, a key point, meaning that these Robert Koch protocols, they are protocols of their meetings that took place daily. 39:46.594 --> 39:48.695 starting in 2020. 39:49.175 --> 39:54.516 Every day they came together and these protocols are the protocols of the meetings. 39:55.356 --> 40:15.861 And it is absolutely clear, it was March 16th, 2020, where it is written in the protocols that they knew that this virus was not particularly dangerous and therefore the danger signal was set on medium. 40:17.523 --> 40:21.471 too low, but that they were waiting for a phone call. 40:23.629 --> 40:24.690 from a politician. 40:25.550 --> 40:33.636 And when this phone call was received one day later, they would up the danger signal. 40:34.296 --> 40:42.321 So this is political control of a medical institution. 40:43.062 --> 40:49.686 And that is what set off the green light for the lockdowns and for the vaccination. 40:49.927 --> 40:50.227 Okay. 40:50.607 --> 40:53.609 Now, Nick, listen very carefully, all of you. 40:55.310 --> 40:57.392 That is what is going around in Germany. 40:58.813 --> 41:09.101 And it's going wild because, very correctly, that is enough to build a case against the Robert Koch Institute and the Ministry of Public Health. 41:10.362 --> 41:17.027 However, there is one other protocol that is much, much, much more important. 41:19.048 --> 41:23.990 There are over 4,000 pages of this protocol that all of you can read. 41:24.391 --> 41:27.312 And in fact, I think they are now available in English, right, Nick? 41:28.352 --> 41:29.393 Did you see them in English? 41:30.253 --> 41:32.034 Yes, yes, we do see them in English. 41:32.534 --> 41:33.935 I've got a point for you later as well. 41:33.955 --> 41:35.096 Allow me a chance to come back. 41:35.116 --> 41:43.199 Okay, Nick, then I advise you and all of you who are listening now to go to the protocol of the 27th of April 2020. 41:47.501 --> 41:48.741 27th of April, 2020. 41:50.062 --> 41:51.442 Just that one protocol. 41:51.962 --> 41:56.864 Now, in the German version, it is on page 725, OK? 41:56.884 --> 42:07.507 And right in the middle, there's a protocol of the subject that they were handling. 42:07.927 --> 42:09.268 And what was that subject? 42:09.608 --> 42:10.948 The subject was the 42:23.191 --> 42:28.513 the vaccination program that was going to be started. 42:29.633 --> 42:29.993 All right? 42:30.434 --> 42:33.274 The implementation of a vaccination program. 42:33.575 --> 42:34.855 Now, this was in April 2020. 42:35.195 --> 42:35.655 Wow. 42:35.795 --> 42:39.877 There was no vaccine, okay? 42:40.457 --> 42:44.478 And no one knew that there were any clinical trials that were being held. 42:45.038 --> 42:47.419 Now, listen very carefully, Stephen. 42:48.689 --> 43:02.018 You open that protocol, look at that page, and you will see two things that will change history, if you can use them, and all of you can use them. 43:02.538 --> 43:06.580 Ron Johnson can immediately use this in America because, of course, 43:07.546 --> 43:17.592 This pertained to the implementation of the vaccination program in Germany and the world with the German product from BioNTech, Pfizer. 43:18.073 --> 43:19.453 Okay, that was the first one. 43:20.014 --> 43:21.515 So what do you read? 43:22.595 --> 43:31.741 You read, lo and behold, several vaccines will become available. 43:33.022 --> 43:36.344 They have been developed and tested in a 43:38.831 --> 43:45.933 at lightning speed, very in an accelerated fashion. 43:46.713 --> 43:54.476 They have been tested, developed and tested in an accelerated fashion. 43:55.536 --> 43:56.897 So they were already there. 43:57.197 --> 43:57.517 Okay. 43:57.917 --> 43:59.898 Now, if you want to know how 44:01.755 --> 44:12.798 that had been developed and tested, you go and read the autobiography of Ugo Sein and his wife, Joe Miller, Project Lightning Speed. 44:13.158 --> 44:14.859 It's all written down there. 44:15.599 --> 44:19.460 And it is documented that they used fake methods. 44:20.660 --> 44:30.603 They said themselves that they had a problem to test the efficacy of the antibodies because they had neither animal 44:31.561 --> 44:38.425 housing, nor did they have the virus to test whether the antibodies were efficacious. 44:39.486 --> 44:45.909 So what they did was they had a cell culture system, which is a complete nonsense, Jay, complete nonsense. 44:46.370 --> 44:56.896 And the results that they also presented in their own book would tell anyone, any politician, that there was 44:59.178 --> 45:01.719 they had no results, they had negative results. 45:02.220 --> 45:13.905 So what they did was they took cell cultures, J in one little culture well, there were 500, no 50,000 cells, okay? 45:17.421 --> 45:31.727 Then they poured a pseudovirus, not the real virus, which they did not have, a reporter pseudovirus with a reporter gene, luciferase, on the cells. 45:33.487 --> 45:34.968 It is all written down. 45:35.788 --> 45:43.071 And then they took another well and looked to see how many cells they could 45:44.798 --> 45:47.979 infect or transfect with this pseudovirus. 45:48.199 --> 45:49.680 It wasn't a real virus at all. 45:51.320 --> 45:58.543 And then they found out that they had a 90% reduction of infection. 46:00.543 --> 46:08.746 However, if you look at the numbers, which you can read in their autobiography, what did they find? 46:09.506 --> 46:13.708 They found out that in the control without the antibodies, 46:15.145 --> 46:18.007 They infected 1% of the cells. 46:20.629 --> 46:27.835 They lit up green, and the green fluorescence was so weak that they had problems measuring. 46:28.836 --> 46:31.818 It was less than, it was background, okay? 46:32.278 --> 46:33.759 Absolute background. 46:34.540 --> 46:40.325 And if they incubated the pseudovirus with their DNA, 46:41.500 --> 46:42.620 anti-serum. 46:42.800 --> 46:46.261 They weren't even isolated antibodies. 46:46.281 --> 46:49.622 It was the raw serum from the mice that they had vaccinated. 46:49.642 --> 46:52.383 The numbers dropped down to 0.1%. 46:52.423 --> 46:53.924 So of the 50,000 cells, they would get 500 47:00.820 --> 47:08.066 500 in the control, 550,000 were pseudo-infected with the pseudo-virus, and if they were pre-incubated with the anti-serum, 47:16.681 --> 47:17.021 They got 50. 47:18.482 --> 47:32.253 And it was so difficult to measure the difference that they had to install very expensive, the most expensive instruments to measure this weak, tiny fluorescence difference. 47:33.173 --> 47:45.823 And with those data, they went to the Paul Ehrlich Institute and showed them the 90% efficacy, established with a non 47:47.494 --> 47:50.339 It was a method that can't be used. 47:50.440 --> 47:56.652 It's never been used, okay, in vaccine science or technology. 47:57.093 --> 47:57.795 It's stupid. 47:59.398 --> 48:14.162 And the Paul Ehrlich Institute, under so-called Professor Ketrotec, who is a chemist and has been bought by all these guys, you know, in the background, all in America, he said, okay, guys, go ahead. 48:14.762 --> 48:16.582 And that was the testing that they had done. 48:17.142 --> 48:23.384 And the Robert Koch Institute knew this on the 20th of February, and knew that these vaccines were coming. 48:24.004 --> 48:26.945 Now, to top this, guys, 48:28.257 --> 48:48.637 The sentence under that sentence says, reads, okay, relevant data will first be assessed or collected post-marketing in humans. 48:50.168 --> 49:06.173 meaning that they had no relevant data on C and safety, and meaning that the world population was going to be used as experimental animals. 49:06.953 --> 49:07.393 Exactly. 49:08.133 --> 49:08.374 Yeah. 49:08.694 --> 49:12.575 But it's now it's, it's black on white. 49:13.215 --> 49:14.075 And it's there for you. 49:14.856 --> 49:15.596 And any 49:17.668 --> 49:19.209 lawyers can use this. 49:19.709 --> 49:22.450 Yes, so Sukrit, it's very important what you're saying. 49:22.630 --> 49:37.034 So can I just clarify, are you saying that the Robert Koch Institute, no less, with its history, you know, previously, was creating or finishing off a business plan in April 2020? 49:39.261 --> 49:39.481 Yes. 49:40.402 --> 49:57.230 Yeah, it's fraud, and it's a racket, and a racket can be attacked in America, which is why I encourage... Five US states have filed criminal complaints against Pfizer. 49:58.050 --> 49:59.831 They can use this document 50:02.680 --> 50:15.685 But Sukrit, I just want to say to Senator Johnson, because I think it's very important he hears this from somebody, that in my opinion, Sukrit Bhakti and JJ are the people to listen to, Senator Johnson, and 50:16.503 --> 50:32.775 Sukrit Bhakti in particular because he came up with the brilliant line, or he noticed, so he's a doctor and a scientist, a medical doctor and a scientist, and he came up at the end of the wonderful book which gave me hope in 50:33.796 --> 50:36.278 November 2020, I think it was, Corona false alarm. 50:37.119 --> 50:43.964 You said, Sukrit, this is the end of the age of the Enlightenment, the end of the age of Enlightenment. 50:44.384 --> 50:47.146 And I thought, that sums it up for me. 50:47.627 --> 50:53.111 And people were talking about this and that, but the big picture was that this was tyranny. 50:53.811 --> 50:57.334 And you pointed that out at the end of your book. 50:57.414 --> 50:59.916 I think it was at the end of your book, Corona false alarm. 51:00.436 --> 51:00.576 Yes. 51:00.656 --> 51:04.218 And so you could see the big picture very clearly then. 51:04.238 --> 51:04.298 Yes. 51:05.359 --> 51:06.539 So great. 51:06.619 --> 51:07.800 Ron's got his hand up. 51:08.000 --> 51:10.001 While we got Ron, he's on a tight time frame. 51:10.101 --> 51:12.942 Ron, can you go, Ron? 51:13.323 --> 51:17.565 Well, first of all, I appreciate being invited to this. 51:18.476 --> 51:22.379 Frequently am, but rarely have a chance to listen to these things. 51:24.441 --> 51:28.244 My role throughout this process has been trying to seek the truth. 51:28.945 --> 51:30.906 It's just that simple. 51:31.067 --> 51:42.716 Provide the platform and be the lay person that can try and translate what you doctors are saying into something that the public can understand. 51:43.697 --> 51:45.639 And Dr. Bhakti, I mean, I agree with you that 51:46.942 --> 51:48.864 I've been in contact with JJ in the past. 51:48.924 --> 51:50.145 I think he's brilliant. 51:50.885 --> 51:53.407 I've been in contact with Mike Eden. 51:53.467 --> 51:54.808 It's the reason I didn't get a vaccine. 51:54.908 --> 51:56.209 I talked to Mike Eden. 51:59.060 --> 52:00.242 You just said, I can use this. 52:00.682 --> 52:01.744 I don't know how to use this. 52:03.526 --> 52:04.146 Let me just finish. 52:05.488 --> 52:13.297 What I've been praying for, what I've been hoping for, before my last Senate event, I think December of 2023, 2022, I assembled all these doctors. 52:18.423 --> 52:21.246 And so I'm going to, you know, JJ is not real fond of anymore. 52:21.286 --> 52:21.826 That's fine. 52:22.507 --> 52:27.952 And I was hoping in a day's session before we put our event, I could be brought up to speed. 52:27.972 --> 52:29.834 Okay, where are we with all the science? 52:30.134 --> 52:38.902 Where are we in terms of information from the Koch Institute or from, you know, different health agencies around the world? 52:40.606 --> 52:48.448 What is frustrating to me as I keep telling these docs these events, you're light years ahead of where the public is. 52:49.228 --> 52:56.989 And we need to develop a foundational base of information to bring the public along to where we are, okay? 52:57.290 --> 53:02.431 And a lot of people are, I know Mike, he has his conclusions. 53:03.131 --> 53:04.091 I've got an open mind. 53:05.031 --> 53:07.492 I don't, I think JJ said this, I don't know what happened. 53:07.612 --> 53:08.892 I don't know who they are. 53:10.453 --> 53:12.136 I mean, that's the mystery we're all trying to solve. 53:12.176 --> 53:15.723 But listen, I am a sponge for information. 53:16.644 --> 53:21.633 I'm looking for the best studies, the best piece of information. 53:21.713 --> 53:23.196 I know it's coming in from all over the world. 53:23.962 --> 53:27.825 You know, I'm happy to send that. 53:27.905 --> 53:30.588 Hopefully, I'll end on this note. 53:30.668 --> 53:36.653 Hopefully, if we get the majority in this next election, I'll be chairman of the Permanent Subcommittee Investigation. 53:37.073 --> 53:40.136 There's nobody else in the United States Senate or Congress that are looking at this. 53:40.797 --> 53:47.382 I mean, what the House did, those hearings, the only thing they're missing was a banner said, you know, brought to you by Pfizer. 53:48.183 --> 53:51.145 So I want to use that committee, but I need 53:52.130 --> 53:55.167 The information I keep asking, I want new faces. 53:55.816 --> 54:02.702 Yes, Senator, listen, I've been following you and I would say chapeau to you. 54:02.902 --> 54:06.685 I respect you tremendously and I feel what you are doing is great. 54:06.965 --> 54:07.706 It's historic. 54:08.126 --> 54:15.112 Now let me tell you what I am trying to trigger in Germany and in Austria and in Switzerland. 54:15.912 --> 54:22.418 I am trying to trigger politicians to establish parliamentary committees of inquiry. 54:23.338 --> 54:30.664 And the only question they have to investigate is the lawfulness of the vaccine authorization. 54:31.925 --> 54:44.896 Because that simple question can be answered in very few hours before it can be proven 54:45.939 --> 54:49.761 that the lawfulness did not exist. 54:50.361 --> 54:55.383 Therefore, these vaccines are unlawful, and therefore, they must be stopped. 54:55.964 --> 55:03.727 So Dr. Bakhti, let me tell you, the problem we run into is people literally don't want to know. 55:03.747 --> 55:08.749 I held another event on American health nutrition, a second opinion. 55:10.570 --> 55:16.772 And I think, as Dr. Chris Palmer said, they don't want to know the root cause to chronic illness. 55:16.792 --> 55:19.072 So that is the resistance we're getting. 55:19.152 --> 55:21.233 They don't want to know. 55:21.253 --> 55:24.153 And the result of that, let me finish. 55:24.433 --> 55:34.196 The result of that public hearing, I just got a letter today signed by something like 270 different agricultural interests, different state ag departments. 55:36.456 --> 55:42.297 to the agriculture committee chairman and ranking member saying how much we need these pesticides and stuff. 55:42.317 --> 55:45.118 So what we are up against is massive. 55:45.698 --> 55:47.779 And there's just a few voices out here. 55:47.799 --> 55:50.579 I mean, look at how many people are on this call. 55:50.599 --> 56:02.162 We are a small minority and we've got to figure out what are the truths that are understandable by the public that will break through to create the public pressure to get these things changed and get it acknowledged. 56:03.202 --> 56:15.606 Susan Johnson, the reason they don't want to hear you or listen to you is because they're living in different cults and you and I and Sukrit and JJ are not good cult members. 56:15.966 --> 56:21.248 We're unusual because human beings have a predilection for cults, for joining cults. 56:21.328 --> 56:21.528 Why? 56:22.068 --> 56:25.909 Well, because they can then be led around and they don't have to think. 56:25.949 --> 56:31.751 They don't want to take responsibility, most human beings and people like you and Sukrit and JJ. 56:31.811 --> 56:33.912 Sorry, I must interrupt. 56:34.072 --> 56:36.132 I really have the need to interrupt. 56:36.212 --> 56:36.872 Sorry, Stephen. 56:37.473 --> 56:41.394 I am not talking about a normal investigative committee. 56:41.874 --> 56:48.776 I'm talking about a committee that is established in parliament now in Germany. 56:49.236 --> 56:51.037 we have 15 states, right? 56:51.657 --> 57:05.803 Saxony, you know, Turing, and in these states where the AFD has the majority, they can establish a committee of inquiry. 57:06.143 --> 57:07.384 They don't have to ask anyone. 57:07.684 --> 57:09.385 I know, but they won't. 57:09.405 --> 57:10.225 Okay, that's great. 57:10.245 --> 57:12.026 They won't do it to Congress, unless it's me. 57:18.047 --> 57:18.467 In the U.S. 57:18.487 --> 57:20.148 Congress, it will not happen unless it's me. 57:21.088 --> 57:22.329 Can you do this in America? 57:22.389 --> 57:29.512 Do the individual states like Texas or Kansas or Florida, they have their parliament, don't they? 57:30.412 --> 57:34.714 They have individual legislatures and there are different attorneys generals that are going down this path. 57:35.154 --> 57:36.735 But again, they are up against the same resistance. 57:36.755 --> 57:38.395 Again, I'm not saying this is impossible. 57:38.415 --> 57:40.636 I'm just laying out here are the problems. 57:41.137 --> 57:46.679 And again, what we need is we need in an understandable fashion to normal people. 57:47.903 --> 57:48.844 This was what happened. 57:48.864 --> 57:53.147 And again, I think you disagree with JJ that we need our own narrative. 57:53.167 --> 57:53.787 I think we do. 57:54.028 --> 57:55.969 We have to be able to tell the story of what happened. 57:56.009 --> 57:57.310 And it has to be reputable. 57:58.091 --> 58:00.132 And Nick Hudson is exceptionally good at that. 58:00.232 --> 58:01.313 Nick Hudson is good at that. 58:02.539 --> 58:19.750 It could be that America and Europe have to go different ways, but the way that I think the Germans can and must take is this installation of parliamentary committees of inquiries. 58:20.430 --> 58:27.819 And I can tell you, Senator Johnson, that this is going to happen in Saxon, in Union. 58:28.200 --> 58:29.581 I talked to them yesterday. 58:30.102 --> 58:30.823 They're doing it. 58:31.303 --> 58:33.366 Didn't Germany just drop some study, though? 58:34.079 --> 58:37.083 they read about, they were going to do something, and they just dropped some inquiry? 58:37.523 --> 58:38.004 No, no, no, no. 58:38.044 --> 58:39.085 This is all in the making. 58:39.606 --> 58:43.871 Because the AFD, the party, the AFD has just come up. 58:44.391 --> 58:52.841 And now they have enough members of parliament to cast this vote that this committee has to be installed. 58:52.961 --> 58:54.043 And that's what they're going to do. 58:54.443 --> 59:10.718 Yeah, by the way, I would also say because these are by and large American companies, Pfizer, I know BioNTech is German, but because this sprang from America, there's probably gonna be far greater resistance in America than there will be in other countries where they'd be happy to pile on and criticize and investigate American companies. 59:11.058 --> 59:15.402 So I think- But we're not investigating any company. 59:16.983 --> 59:19.405 The question that is going to be raised 59:20.466 --> 59:28.432 that has to be answered by this committee is the question of the lawfulness of the vaccine authorization. 59:29.844 --> 59:31.645 Not, you see, nothing else. 59:32.025 --> 59:33.105 But they are the law. 59:33.585 --> 59:35.686 Can I just briefly interject? 59:36.246 --> 59:37.446 No, no, no, no. 59:37.546 --> 59:38.266 Yeah, JJ. 59:38.306 --> 59:45.328 So it's really important to realize that in America, we're on our own trap because we have our own laws and our own constitution. 59:45.348 --> 59:49.650 In America, what enabled this to happen was a number of laws. 59:49.710 --> 59:52.150 I'm not an expert on it, but the PrEP Act is one. 59:52.410 --> 59:57.972 And what happens in the PrEP Act is very simple to explain, but only in the context of American law. 59:58.812 --> 01:00:15.663 if the if a fundamental right in america is to be suspended the government is not assumed to be right the government is assumed to be wrong in other words it's not presumed innocent until proven guilty if the government's going to take away a fundamental right and that has been established as a very very firm 01:00:16.303 --> 01:00:31.516 thing within american law and so the prep act allows them to suspend a number of rights including probably the seventh amendment and probably something other other another amendment and that suspension of rights is only subject to a non-elected officials whim 01:00:32.276 --> 01:00:36.999 called the rational basis review, which is basically if he has a hypothetical reason, he can do it. 01:00:37.479 --> 01:00:43.743 And that's not sufficient in the context of American law to justify the suspension of a fundamental right. 01:00:44.164 --> 01:00:50.808 And what's pretty shocking is that all the lawyers that have been on our side for like 10 years on the vaccine schedule, haven't managed to 01:00:51.428 --> 01:01:10.000 get this argument together and I have and I'm not a lawyer so that's the trick because those words don't mean jack and all in Canada they don't mean jack in Australia and so our traps are all different we have to know the the beast we're fighting but each one of us is in a separate cage okay okay Jay I mean 01:01:13.144 --> 01:01:15.468 I have no insight in the American situation. 01:01:15.488 --> 01:01:22.779 I'm just telling you what we're trying to trigger in Germany and in Austria. 01:01:23.259 --> 01:01:25.002 The same thing is happening in Austria. 01:01:25.843 --> 01:01:26.424 There's going to be 01:01:27.415 --> 01:01:29.618 a parliamentary committee of inquiry. 01:01:29.778 --> 01:01:36.047 I think that's why it's really important, because one country might find that they have a law that makes it very easy for them to punish. 01:01:36.287 --> 01:01:40.673 And if they can, then that might set the momentum in motion. 01:01:40.873 --> 01:01:41.454 That's my point. 01:01:43.928 --> 01:01:47.391 different countries may have different levels of success to expose this. 01:01:48.632 --> 01:01:50.093 I'm not arguing with anybody here. 01:01:51.554 --> 01:01:56.858 I've been trying to get more and more people to cooperate from different points of view, different conclusions. 01:01:59.180 --> 01:02:01.862 In the end, truth is truth, and that's what we need to uncover here. 01:02:01.902 --> 01:02:08.027 So I'm just looking for more people to help uncover and expose the truth, recognizing how difficult that is. 01:02:09.830 --> 01:02:23.335 Yeah, Sukrit, I think it's very important to point out that a lot of people in doctors and experts in inverted commas and scientists, even on our side, are very good at finding information. 01:02:23.975 --> 01:02:29.137 But they're very bad, in my experience running this group, at joining the dots. 01:02:29.757 --> 01:02:34.799 The information that they have and other people have, they don't want to know about other people's information. 01:02:34.839 --> 01:02:36.540 They just want to talk about their information. 01:02:37.396 --> 01:02:39.117 We need the dot joiners. 01:02:39.257 --> 01:02:45.561 It's very important that we've got the dot joiners, and that's why we haven't made any progress with the true narrative. 01:02:45.861 --> 01:02:51.285 The narrative that human beings can get closest to the truth. 01:02:51.365 --> 01:02:53.206 I'm not saying we can get to the whole truth. 01:02:53.846 --> 01:02:56.907 But obviously we can't solve a problem if we don't know what the truth is. 01:02:56.987 --> 01:03:15.976 If we can't articulate to other human beings what the truth is, what we think the truth is, with good intentions and we're doing our best to find out the truth and change our opinions all the time, hypothesize when necessary as a good medical doctor should, then we're not going to win this. 01:03:16.136 --> 01:03:18.217 We need to get a narrative out 01:03:18.857 --> 01:03:19.697 as some time. 01:03:19.717 --> 01:03:22.638 I've been saying it for a long time, but nobody else can see it. 01:03:23.178 --> 01:03:24.039 JJ can see it now. 01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:30.761 Yeah, Stephen, listen, I am not here to argue with you about what you should do or what I should do. 01:03:30.781 --> 01:03:32.682 I'm not arguing, Sukrit. 01:03:33.162 --> 01:03:38.984 I'm just telling you that the Robert Koch files 01:03:39.966 --> 01:03:42.249 have exposed themselves. 01:03:42.790 --> 01:03:44.493 And you don't have to look for the truth. 01:03:44.553 --> 01:03:46.435 The truth is staring at you in the eyes. 01:03:46.716 --> 01:03:47.697 Now, let me tell you. 01:03:47.717 --> 01:03:49.279 Can you send me those pages? 01:03:54.043 --> 01:03:55.383 Send me this information. 01:03:56.224 --> 01:03:56.944 In German, yes. 01:03:57.344 --> 01:04:09.366 I can tell you, Senator, when this came out in June, this June, it was so important that I sat down and extended my autobiography. 01:04:09.546 --> 01:04:10.526 I've written a book. 01:04:10.727 --> 01:04:13.487 It's out in German since last year. 01:04:14.267 --> 01:04:17.648 And the new edition is going to appear in two weeks. 01:04:18.636 --> 01:04:22.721 And it is also going to appear in 40 languages, including English. 01:04:24.402 --> 01:04:31.890 And in those last 15 pages, I laid out why the time has now come for the world to act. 01:04:32.391 --> 01:04:37.436 Because you have the instrument in your hands with which you can stop 01:04:38.243 --> 01:04:45.325 this whole mass criminality, the whole vaccine program can be brought to a fall. 01:04:45.845 --> 01:04:47.026 You just have to want to do it. 01:04:47.646 --> 01:04:48.326 And exactly. 01:04:48.386 --> 01:04:48.766 So great. 01:04:49.126 --> 01:04:49.327 Yes. 01:04:50.107 --> 01:04:51.847 And so so the book is going to be out. 01:04:53.488 --> 01:04:57.849 It's going to be out in two weeks. 01:04:58.930 --> 01:04:59.770 And it's 01:05:01.178 --> 01:05:03.298 The title is The Way of Truth. 01:05:03.539 --> 01:05:05.279 Okay, and it's my autobiography. 01:05:05.919 --> 01:05:10.680 And I tell the whole story of COVID there very easily told. 01:05:11.500 --> 01:05:27.004 And I end with the Robert Koch files with this page 725 and the statements that they have written down, and that they're open for the whole world to see that the world has been subject to a mass human experiment. 01:05:27.624 --> 01:05:28.124 Absolutely. 01:05:29.296 --> 01:05:38.692 I have no more to say, because it's all written down, and not by us, but by those guys themselves. 01:05:39.213 --> 01:05:40.676 This is the wonderful thing about it. 01:05:43.406 --> 01:05:46.469 But Sukrit, it was not just about the vaccine. 01:05:46.529 --> 01:05:48.731 So you're a medical doctor and I'm a medical doctor. 01:05:48.751 --> 01:05:57.579 So medical doctors, if they're good, they should be hypothesizing on behalf of the human species, thinking of their patients and humanity in general. 01:05:57.979 --> 01:06:01.062 What happened in 2020 was obviously wrong. 01:06:01.202 --> 01:06:02.243 It wasn't partially wrong. 01:06:02.543 --> 01:06:03.644 It was completely wrong. 01:06:03.904 --> 01:06:05.466 Let's go back four years. 01:06:05.706 --> 01:06:06.687 It was a pack of lies. 01:06:07.847 --> 01:06:11.189 So you've said tonight that we don't have to prove it was wrong. 01:06:11.549 --> 01:06:12.730 They have to prove that it is. 01:06:13.170 --> 01:06:14.371 It was actually justified. 01:06:14.711 --> 01:06:15.612 It wasn't justified. 01:06:15.912 --> 01:06:18.473 Human beings are very social animals. 01:06:18.553 --> 01:06:24.757 They have incredible habits and they were robbed of their habits and they were robbed of their souls. 01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:30.203 and the will to live. 01:06:30.283 --> 01:06:36.136 They lost the will to live, many human beings, and that has not been talked about by any medical doctors in the world. 01:06:36.690 --> 01:06:46.093 No, I mean, we agreed on all points, Stephen, but I am trying to find out how to stop the WHO and its vaccination program. 01:06:46.833 --> 01:06:48.673 Everything else doesn't really interest me. 01:06:48.833 --> 01:06:50.194 It does not interest me. 01:06:50.614 --> 01:06:57.876 The WHO are evil, but the reason they need to go is because they're not needed, because pandemics are not possible. 01:06:58.652 --> 01:07:01.855 That's why they look, this is beside the point. 01:07:02.276 --> 01:07:05.259 How do we stop this vaccination program? 01:07:05.299 --> 01:07:08.202 That's the only thing I'm interested in the only thing. 01:07:08.822 --> 01:07:12.426 Because as you know, it's it's exploding now. 01:07:12.966 --> 01:07:15.309 And if we don't think about a way to stop it, 01:07:17.023 --> 01:07:19.924 I'm not going to go into discussions with anyone. 01:07:20.605 --> 01:07:21.825 There's nothing to discuss. 01:07:22.246 --> 01:07:23.666 There's nothing to discuss. 01:07:23.686 --> 01:07:28.689 While we've got Jay here, we've got one other scientist here who's got his hand up, and that's David Resnick. 01:07:29.729 --> 01:07:31.710 Ron, have you had dealings with David Resnick? 01:07:31.750 --> 01:07:41.655 Well, Charles, I'm concerned that JJ hasn't had a chance to... Well, he did speak at the beginning, but he hasn't had a chance to... We'll see what David Resnick has to say, then we'll go to Jay. 01:07:41.795 --> 01:07:42.135 David? 01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:43.660 Oh, hi. 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:45.541 Yeah, very, very interesting. 01:07:45.641 --> 01:07:55.805 The reason I put my hand up is that I have four years experience facing what most everybody here has been facing five years. 01:07:56.345 --> 01:08:01.907 I knew as early as February of 2020 that every aspect of what we're talking about today was 01:08:02.930 --> 01:08:17.835 There was no way that I could explain to anybody why that was, because it took what you're experiencing right now, what you're all going through and facing, what you understand, how do you convey the useful information to other people? 01:08:18.235 --> 01:08:21.416 That's what happened with the AIDS stuff back in the 80s and 90s. 01:08:21.836 --> 01:08:22.417 Absolutely. 01:08:22.837 --> 01:08:26.178 A subset of us around the world, and it has nothing to do with science. 01:08:26.438 --> 01:08:30.039 You see, the key of it is it's not medical, it's not anything. 01:08:31.180 --> 01:08:32.240 It's a pack of lies. 01:08:33.341 --> 01:08:40.486 But how do you get away, how do you approach people without having to go through all this technobabble? 01:08:40.786 --> 01:08:44.930 The technobabble with AIDS is not going to work with COVID. 01:08:46.151 --> 01:08:48.012 That's why I don't want to get involved in this. 01:08:48.592 --> 01:08:49.293 I agree with you. 01:08:50.194 --> 01:08:52.035 You've got to take a non-technical approach. 01:08:55.663 --> 01:08:56.344 Stay away from it. 01:08:56.384 --> 01:08:57.606 We all understand it. 01:08:57.927 --> 01:09:03.136 We cannot educate and bring people to this awareness in any reasonable time. 01:09:03.998 --> 01:09:06.622 I want this to go through Parliament. 01:09:07.659 --> 01:09:09.160 Well, that sounds a bit defeatist. 01:09:09.200 --> 01:09:10.240 Hang on, hang on. 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:33.848 I would just make the argument that where my hope lies, and it might be just nonsense, but where my hope lies is that there are thousands of academic professional biologists in universities, labs, and in pharmaceutical laboratories that have the requisite biological background to hear the words, RNA cannot pandemic, and have like a 01:09:34.636 --> 01:09:35.296 What does that mean? 01:09:35.917 --> 01:09:43.220 They also can hear the words intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting my kid's immune system is dumb. 01:09:43.641 --> 01:09:44.781 And then they could think about it. 01:09:44.801 --> 01:09:47.522 They could think about what do I really know about immunology? 01:09:48.023 --> 01:09:54.506 And if they asked those questions to me, I could go on for hours about how the immune system is organized from the inside out. 01:09:54.566 --> 01:10:00.109 And the original idea of vaccination has always been to perturb the barrier at the, 01:10:00.809 --> 01:10:04.270 in the direction that the immune system is oriented. 01:10:04.370 --> 01:10:08.031 If somebody wanted to ask me, but how did they use PCR to lie? 01:10:08.191 --> 01:10:20.494 I can explain to an academic biologist all the ways that they use PCR to be hyper-accurate, to get a publication in Nature, and how none of those optimizations were used in any diagnostics. 01:10:20.934 --> 01:10:29.896 So there are questions that need to be asked, and I think there are people with professional backgrounds that will propel them to ask the right questions if we can just stimulate them 01:10:30.416 --> 01:10:31.297 to think about them. 01:10:31.357 --> 01:10:41.345 That's why I think technical, yes, you're not going to get a gas station attendant to understand it, but there are thousands of academics around the world that ought to be able to figure this out. 01:10:42.767 --> 01:10:44.028 A real quick response. 01:10:44.864 --> 01:10:50.628 Back in the 80s, the 80s and 90s, it wasn't just Peter Duesberg, me, and a handful of other scientists. 01:10:51.109 --> 01:10:58.555 The people at UCSF did, the people at UC Berkeley did, and they knew it, but they kept their mouths shut. 01:10:59.115 --> 01:10:59.715 I get it. 01:11:00.076 --> 01:11:03.298 I get it, but we have social media now. 01:11:03.358 --> 01:11:11.805 We have 40 different military platforms that people are logged into, and those 40 military platforms didn't exist when you were trying to get the truth out about AIDS. 01:11:12.489 --> 01:11:13.190 They already knew it. 01:11:13.410 --> 01:11:15.812 The scientists knew it, but they kept their mouth shut. 01:11:15.952 --> 01:11:16.613 I knew these people. 01:11:16.633 --> 01:11:19.015 So David, hold that thought quite right. 01:11:19.215 --> 01:11:20.156 Nick's got his hand up. 01:11:20.956 --> 01:11:31.125 But David, the difference this time is many, many millions of people, many billions maybe, have suffered greatly, and they don't even know, a lot of them, how much they've suffered. 01:11:31.646 --> 01:11:33.227 Because they're in Stockholm Syndrome. 01:11:33.567 --> 01:11:34.829 They're in Stockholm Syndrome. 01:11:34.929 --> 01:11:36.050 That's a nice distinction. 01:11:36.090 --> 01:11:36.250 Nick? 01:11:38.243 --> 01:11:40.044 Yeah, just quickly, thank you. 01:11:40.125 --> 01:11:41.185 It's been a great discussion. 01:11:41.506 --> 01:11:54.035 It's been a long time since I met anybody sensible who thinks that there was a pandemic, and that's progress, and well done to a lot of you for promoting that version of events. 01:11:54.816 --> 01:12:03.123 I think that if we are in the business of trying to discover the truth, then one of the things we need to do is take a good hard look at the most censored topics. 01:12:03.763 --> 01:12:17.214 And it's so interesting that Sucharit led in with the RKI files, because there are two topics closely related to those which are among the most censored that we can't get people to go and face. 01:12:17.895 --> 01:12:23.839 And the one is the important role that Germany played politically 01:12:24.980 --> 01:12:25.821 in the whole story. 01:12:27.362 --> 01:12:38.608 If you are one of the proponents of the view that Germany had a central role instead of the false dichotomy of DoD or China, then you will be severely censored on social media. 01:12:39.651 --> 01:12:51.535 If you point out that BioNTech is the item of interest and not Pfizer, and if you insist on people naming the correct culprit in the biggest fraud of them all, you will be censored. 01:12:52.135 --> 01:12:55.216 Those are two German-related stories. 01:12:55.456 --> 01:13:08.260 But more importantly than both of those, I would say is we have a situation where if you step out 01:13:09.443 --> 01:13:17.274 and say what JJ has said, that an injection is incompatible with developing an immune response. 01:13:18.256 --> 01:13:20.499 You will be frozen to death. 01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:26.721 the idea that... So, Nick, just hold on. 01:13:26.741 --> 01:13:27.861 We'll say goodbye to Nick. 01:13:28.102 --> 01:13:30.022 We'll say goodbye to Jay, because he has to go. 01:13:30.263 --> 01:13:31.263 And you keep going, Nick. 01:13:31.283 --> 01:13:32.584 So, Jay, thank you so much. 01:13:33.384 --> 01:13:34.144 Yes, thank you, Jay. 01:13:34.325 --> 01:13:36.586 Great work you're doing and being provocative. 01:13:36.606 --> 01:13:37.006 Thank you very much. 01:13:37.326 --> 01:13:38.627 I'm sorry I have to leave. 01:13:39.167 --> 01:13:44.509 I'm often in the audience as an iPhone, but I'm here and thank you very much for all of your attention. 01:13:44.549 --> 01:13:45.390 I really appreciate it. 01:13:45.430 --> 01:13:47.911 Sukrit, you're one of my heroes, man. 01:13:47.951 --> 01:13:48.671 I don't know what to say. 01:13:48.691 --> 01:13:49.232 I wouldn't have made it. 01:13:49.252 --> 01:13:51.653 Well, you're one of ours, Jay. 01:13:54.234 --> 01:14:01.636 We'll try and set up another meeting, because I think it's very good to talk like this. 01:14:02.776 --> 01:14:03.717 I also have to interrupt. 01:14:03.797 --> 01:14:04.857 I have to leave as well. 01:14:05.297 --> 01:14:06.498 But I want to stay connected. 01:14:06.738 --> 01:14:06.938 Okay. 01:14:06.958 --> 01:14:11.219 I mean, I came on because JJ and Dr. Bakker was on. 01:14:11.639 --> 01:14:13.080 So I need more information. 01:14:13.120 --> 01:14:15.940 So keep me keep inviting me. 01:14:16.481 --> 01:14:16.701 Okay. 01:14:16.721 --> 01:14:17.401 Thank you so much. 01:14:17.801 --> 01:14:18.161 Thank you. 01:14:18.181 --> 01:14:18.361 Thank you. 01:14:22.330 --> 01:14:33.008 Okay, so Nick, keep going because we're recording this and then Ron's staff can look at it and all of us can re-look at it and think through. 01:14:33.108 --> 01:14:33.890 Keep going, right Nick? 01:14:35.109 --> 01:14:50.332 Okay, and then the other point I was leading up to just in the context of suppressed narratives, you know, from the International COVID Summit 2 till about, I think it was 4, I was, yeah, I was a participant and speaker. 01:14:52.013 --> 01:14:57.614 And I got to know several of the salient individuals there, including Robert Malone. 01:14:59.234 --> 01:15:04.738 And things came unstuck there for me when it came to ICS-5. 01:15:05.278 --> 01:15:13.964 And by then I was on like a, it wasn't ever really formalized, but there was sort of a committee that would meet and talk about the speakers roster. 01:15:14.975 --> 01:15:24.197 And I said, look, at the moment, if we're not all agreeing that COVID was a political and not a medical event, then I think we're wasting our time. 01:15:24.337 --> 01:15:41.320 And what disturbed me about ICS4 in Romania is that all the people who were there to deposit a political message were relegated to the arse end of the two-day session in favor of absolutely bizarre topics like how to use barometric 01:15:42.581 --> 01:15:45.583 treatment modalities to treat long COVID. 01:15:45.963 --> 01:15:47.985 You know, does the world really need to hear that? 01:15:49.026 --> 01:15:51.568 But yes, apparently, according to ICS4, it did. 01:15:52.268 --> 01:16:02.916 And so the speakers who had something to say about COVID as a political phenomenon were crammed into the last few minutes when the hall was empty, the videos were an absolute mess. 01:16:03.597 --> 01:16:05.718 And so I got up there, I said, I'm not coming again. 01:16:06.599 --> 01:16:15.065 And yes, we all agree that if we're discussing a political phenomenon, the majority of the speakers ought to be people of a political inclination. 01:16:15.365 --> 01:16:15.985 Absolutely. 01:16:16.005 --> 01:16:16.926 Yeah. 01:16:17.386 --> 01:16:18.427 Good for you, Nick. 01:16:19.147 --> 01:16:21.569 At that point, I got thrown out of the whole story. 01:16:21.969 --> 01:16:22.870 Yeah, exactly. 01:16:22.930 --> 01:16:27.736 The loan blocked me and it cut off all communications. 01:16:27.756 --> 01:16:34.083 After two years, including trips together and lots of interaction, I was completely frozen out. 01:16:34.163 --> 01:16:35.905 And that goes back to my original point. 01:16:36.345 --> 01:16:39.329 Concentrate on the narratives that are suppressed. 01:16:39.669 --> 01:16:41.251 And these are the narratives that are suppressed. 01:16:41.271 --> 01:16:41.691 Absolutely. 01:16:41.991 --> 01:16:42.732 Very good, Nick. 01:16:43.473 --> 01:16:47.818 So Nick, I was in contact with the two people I knew. 01:16:48.539 --> 01:16:57.949 One was American, I won't say the name, but one was Italian, and he was willing to listen to me. 01:16:58.069 --> 01:17:01.834 I told him that I see one, in my opinion, they had the wrong speakers there. 01:17:02.274 --> 01:17:03.636 I won't say which ones were wrong. 01:17:04.918 --> 01:17:14.559 And so I had them interested for a while, but the female was a bit mysterious, you know, she kept her cards close to her chest, the one in America. 01:17:15.570 --> 01:17:19.411 She was trying to persuade me, Nick, I'll just tell the truth now. 01:17:19.751 --> 01:17:26.153 She was trying to persuade me that we needed to have Robert Malone heavily involved. 01:17:26.273 --> 01:17:34.716 And I said, no, I think that Robert Malone, I don't have anything against him, but I don't think he's the one with the answers. 01:17:35.356 --> 01:17:41.318 I think he has too much influence over your choices in ICS-1 or had. 01:17:42.038 --> 01:17:43.399 And guess what happened? 01:17:44.406 --> 01:17:45.046 It disappeared. 01:17:45.266 --> 01:17:46.967 And that was after about five. 01:17:47.967 --> 01:17:50.669 And so they were both going to listen to me. 01:17:50.749 --> 01:17:53.890 So I think it was his cousin, the Italian guy. 01:17:54.670 --> 01:17:55.991 It was his American cousin. 01:17:56.571 --> 01:18:11.077 And essentially, I could not get the speakers I wanted on ICS2, or they wouldn't even consider them if Malone wasn't included. 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:22.461 Yeah, there's a very strong element of sustaining the pandemic narrative in the ICS community. 01:18:22.541 --> 01:18:26.962 And to that extent, I believe the whole operation is essentially flawed. 01:18:27.822 --> 01:18:29.163 It's leading people astray. 01:18:29.203 --> 01:18:30.283 There was no pandemic. 01:18:30.383 --> 01:18:31.903 It's very important to understand that. 01:18:32.163 --> 01:18:39.205 And just the circuit, what you're proposing in Australia, there was a major push to have a Senate inquiry. 01:18:39.845 --> 01:18:42.867 on the whole, just on a simple number of excess deaths. 01:18:43.348 --> 01:18:45.209 It got through by one vote. 01:18:45.529 --> 01:18:48.731 All of the submissions that were filed were ignored by the Senate. 01:18:49.172 --> 01:18:53.254 It was a very short hearing and the fix is on. 01:18:53.855 --> 01:19:03.721 However, in Australia, last Friday, a local municipality passed a resolution that I'm sure many of you have seen, the Port Hedland Council, 01:19:04.522 --> 01:19:08.003 You know, and they've announced that they're taking these steps. 01:19:08.844 --> 01:19:15.306 And already the state government is saying to the Port Hedland Council, keep your nose out of this stuff. 01:19:15.786 --> 01:19:18.247 There's a lot to be said for Sukrit, for what you're saying. 01:19:18.307 --> 01:19:19.768 Ron says, I can't do it at the top. 01:19:20.128 --> 01:19:26.390 Yes, but we can take your advice, your comments, Sukrit, at the bottom, at local municipalities. 01:19:26.450 --> 01:19:31.792 And there are people on this call doing it at a county level, county by county in California. 01:19:32.132 --> 01:19:33.573 Julie Threatt is doing that. 01:19:34.154 --> 01:19:36.381 with Ron Owens, OK? 01:19:38.884 --> 01:19:41.906 Yeah, sure, good. 01:19:41.926 --> 01:19:44.228 Nick, I don't think it was just political either. 01:19:44.769 --> 01:19:51.594 I think it was a deliberate Trojan horse to push global totalitarianism. 01:19:52.035 --> 01:19:53.136 That's what COVID was. 01:19:53.456 --> 01:20:04.405 It was a Trojan horse amongst many Trojan horses, but arguably the most important Trojan horse because pandemics, in inverted commas, have the power to frighten people as they did. 01:20:06.342 --> 01:20:08.884 Including doctors, including doctors. 01:20:09.485 --> 01:20:19.632 Sukrit, on David Rasnick's point, and Nick, Stephen said, there are many thousands of academics now. 01:20:19.732 --> 01:20:23.094 David, it didn't happen in the 80s. 01:20:23.275 --> 01:20:26.597 The gift of COVID has been a large awakening. 01:20:26.677 --> 01:20:29.059 Sukrit, is that your sense, Nick? 01:20:29.779 --> 01:20:34.202 Many more academics and scientists are awake now than they were in the 80s. 01:20:35.529 --> 01:20:36.850 Oh, absolutely. 01:20:37.310 --> 01:20:39.311 I mean, we're looking at tens of thousands. 01:20:39.872 --> 01:20:43.294 You know what happened in Tokyo two weeks ago? 01:20:44.034 --> 01:20:50.999 This mass demonstration of 50,000 people and led by top scientists, Japanese scientists. 01:20:52.360 --> 01:20:56.322 So it's not as if no one is standing up. 01:20:58.123 --> 01:21:03.607 Many, many thousands, doctors, physicians, and scientists. 01:21:04.597 --> 01:21:06.598 are fully awake and aware. 01:21:07.239 --> 01:21:23.830 And that's why I think, as I say, the time has really now come for these official parliamentary committees to be set up, because they will invite the experts. 01:21:26.280 --> 01:21:29.743 to come and talk in front of Parliament. 01:21:29.803 --> 01:21:37.210 This happens in front of Parliament, not on the streets, not in any theatres anywhere, but in the Parliament. 01:21:38.311 --> 01:21:43.816 And these sessions are recorded and have to be recorded. 01:21:44.797 --> 01:21:49.241 And they get out into the media. 01:21:50.302 --> 01:21:51.002 They always do. 01:21:51.883 --> 01:21:56.905 So I'm placing my hopes in this. 01:21:58.506 --> 01:22:04.969 And I'm really talking to the top politicians. 01:22:07.170 --> 01:22:11.112 And they have told me that this is now, they've already done it. 01:22:12.753 --> 01:22:20.458 The committees are being set up now, as I said, in Saxony, in Thuringen and in Brandenburg. 01:22:22.284 --> 01:22:31.392 So Senator Johnson seemed to think that, the same as I thought, that something in Germany changed in this last week, Sukrit. 01:22:31.432 --> 01:22:34.674 So there was something that they were investigating. 01:22:34.714 --> 01:22:35.875 Maybe it was a false story. 01:22:36.576 --> 01:22:40.559 So he seemed to know exactly the same as I seem to, I can't quite remember. 01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:47.285 They decided not to have an investigation into the policy response. 01:22:49.146 --> 01:22:49.526 Who did? 01:22:49.947 --> 01:22:51.068 The federal government or the 01:22:52.846 --> 01:22:55.387 Yeah, but it was a federal government. 01:22:55.427 --> 01:22:59.508 But the federal government, of course, is not so important. 01:22:59.928 --> 01:23:07.429 It's the state governments, you know, it's, it's, it's, this is a federal state. 01:23:08.230 --> 01:23:10.870 So, each state has its own parliament. 01:23:11.350 --> 01:23:17.972 Now, the federal government in Berlin is ruled, of course, by the other side. 01:23:19.639 --> 01:23:33.956 But it is only in East Germany, in the former East German states, that the AFD and the other party, Sarawakian Commission, have now risen to power. 01:23:33.976 --> 01:23:37.260 Okay, this happened in September. 01:23:38.288 --> 01:23:48.720 And now for the first time they are able to install these committees themselves for their own states. 01:23:49.421 --> 01:23:56.329 So these committees will only be operating for Thuringia and Saxony, but one state in 01:23:57.819 --> 01:23:58.981 is extremely important. 01:23:59.622 --> 01:24:00.103 Absolutely. 01:24:00.824 --> 01:24:09.316 Because if they come to a conclusion in one state, like in Saxony, the other states will ask, well, now what about us? 01:24:10.077 --> 01:24:10.378 Okay. 01:24:10.418 --> 01:24:10.678 Sure. 01:24:12.080 --> 01:24:13.362 Yeah, like a precedent. 01:24:14.654 --> 01:24:30.816 so you're not you're not so so interested you're sorry you're not so disappointed that the federal government has just no no no that was clear that okay yeah i understand that's but i think that's what senator johnson that heard you say so but that that is meaningless yeah very good 01:24:31.243 --> 01:24:32.004 We all know that. 01:24:32.584 --> 01:24:43.336 And the other country where the really federal government is going to install a committee of inquiry is Austria. 01:24:43.996 --> 01:24:45.358 Because in Austria, this 01:24:46.779 --> 01:24:51.701 FPO or FPO has won the majority. 01:24:52.281 --> 01:24:59.983 And the number of seats that they have suffice for them as a party alone to install a committee. 01:25:00.763 --> 01:25:01.404 And they're going to do it. 01:25:02.124 --> 01:25:05.485 It's going to happen, I think, in November. 01:25:06.448 --> 01:25:20.958 But Sukrit, we've had a public inquiry in the United Kingdom, and clearly the chair of the inquiry thinks that her job is to warn the British public that they were terribly treated by the British government. 01:25:21.058 --> 01:25:28.804 Every man, woman, and child suffered at the hands of the British government, I think were her exact words, but may have gotten slightly wrong. 01:25:29.684 --> 01:25:35.771 And her perception was that in the next pandemic they have to do much better. 01:25:35.791 --> 01:25:39.375 In other words, lock people down earlier and harder. 01:25:40.117 --> 01:25:43.279 what's happening in Germany and Austria is not a public inquiry. 01:25:43.599 --> 01:25:45.540 It's not a public inquiry. 01:25:46.281 --> 01:25:52.184 It is there will be a parliamentary committee. 01:25:53.085 --> 01:26:05.392 You know, this committee is going to be installed by the politicians themselves. 01:26:05.872 --> 01:26:08.974 And since the AFD have the majority 01:26:09.932 --> 01:26:12.034 The committee will be composed mainly of them. 01:26:13.756 --> 01:26:17.940 And they all want to have this question settled. 01:26:18.641 --> 01:26:19.642 That's what I've been telling you. 01:26:19.782 --> 01:26:21.804 Have just one question settled. 01:26:22.985 --> 01:26:28.591 Was the vaccine authorization process in Germany lawful? 01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:33.221 the simple answer will be no. 01:26:33.842 --> 01:26:34.962 Yes, of course it wasn't lawful. 01:26:35.523 --> 01:26:39.865 And once that's been established it'll open the floodgates for what else was not lawful. 01:26:40.866 --> 01:26:52.412 No, I don't really care but the moment that happens the vaccine's authorization is invalid and therefore they will not be able to apply them. 01:26:53.132 --> 01:26:53.693 I understand. 01:26:54.535 --> 01:26:57.276 Not only this vaccine, but all RNA vaccines. 01:26:57.296 --> 01:27:01.858 You know the RSV vaccine is out now, and the flu vaccine is out now. 01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:03.139 And the shingles. 01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:06.440 And the shingles. 01:27:06.480 --> 01:27:14.984 The moment the judgment is passed that the authorization process was not lawful, then there was no authorization, right? 01:27:15.913 --> 01:27:17.674 Correct. 01:27:17.714 --> 01:27:27.236 David's hand is up and we've had Angus Dalgleish coming on a tour of Australia in the last week and that's, he's messy, he's coming out hard and has been going around the world. 01:27:27.556 --> 01:27:29.397 No more mRNA jabs. 01:27:29.857 --> 01:27:31.578 So that's also building on that. 01:27:31.598 --> 01:27:31.918 David. 01:27:31.938 --> 01:27:39.080 Yeah, I just want to say that I think we scientists, our job is to learn what's going on. 01:27:39.160 --> 01:27:42.861 We don't have time and the other people aren't going to understand the technical stuff. 01:27:43.396 --> 01:27:46.558 We have to just come out in mass and say it's a fraud. 01:27:47.338 --> 01:27:48.519 Yes, I agree with you, David. 01:27:48.879 --> 01:27:49.720 Yep, I agree. 01:27:50.340 --> 01:27:55.103 And the more of us that say it, okay, if they ask us, how do you know? 01:27:55.163 --> 01:27:56.324 I'll be happy to tell them. 01:27:56.684 --> 01:28:00.366 But we have to start out with something they understand. 01:28:00.446 --> 01:28:01.367 Okay, what's a fraud? 01:28:01.427 --> 01:28:02.707 It's dangerous, it's going to kill you. 01:28:03.528 --> 01:28:04.448 How has your life been? 01:28:05.729 --> 01:28:06.650 Well, you get the idea. 01:28:06.670 --> 01:28:10.492 The idea is to try to convince people of the technical stuff. 01:28:11.414 --> 01:28:14.497 come out as scientists and professionals and say what we know. 01:28:14.658 --> 01:28:15.358 It's a fraud. 01:28:15.999 --> 01:28:16.480 Sure. 01:28:16.820 --> 01:28:18.161 And David, you're absolutely right. 01:28:18.201 --> 01:28:21.025 In the UK now, I can say that to people. 01:28:21.656 --> 01:28:22.636 I get their attention. 01:28:23.156 --> 01:28:25.797 They say, well, how do you know that? 01:28:25.817 --> 01:28:29.557 And I say, well, all this usual stuff. 01:28:30.017 --> 01:28:31.158 And they really listen now. 01:28:31.478 --> 01:28:32.438 Two years ago, they didn't. 01:28:33.138 --> 01:28:35.338 But not all of them listen now. 01:28:35.819 --> 01:28:36.859 A lot of them want to do this. 01:28:36.879 --> 01:28:42.900 You can see that they want to put their hands over their ears so they don't hear anything more which disturbs their minds. 01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:44.980 I mean, I feel sorry for them. 01:28:45.020 --> 01:28:49.241 But on the other hand, these people are keeping us in prison and ruining our lives. 01:28:50.578 --> 01:28:51.731 and everybody else's lives. 01:28:54.394 --> 01:28:59.177 People who are terrified of keeping us all in prison. 01:28:59.838 --> 01:29:00.498 That's very good. 01:29:00.518 --> 01:29:01.959 It's a clear message. 01:29:02.259 --> 01:29:07.123 And what Ron Johnson wants to be able to say is, how does he use this information? 01:29:07.163 --> 01:29:07.783 We've got offers. 01:29:07.803 --> 01:29:09.204 We'll share those offers now. 01:29:09.244 --> 01:29:14.227 We've got a lot of hands up, Nick and Sukrit and Steven and David. 01:29:14.288 --> 01:29:15.749 So shall we go to them? 01:29:15.789 --> 01:29:18.991 We've got less than an hour to go. 01:29:19.211 --> 01:29:20.532 Sukrit, you're okay for questions? 01:29:23.094 --> 01:29:23.654 How are you placed? 01:29:26.411 --> 01:29:27.575 Sukrit, are you okay? 01:29:27.655 --> 01:29:28.397 No, I have no question. 01:29:28.939 --> 01:29:29.501 No, no, sorry. 01:29:30.102 --> 01:29:31.426 Are you okay to answer questions? 01:29:33.078 --> 01:29:36.320 Sure, but I don't know what they have now actually. 01:29:36.340 --> 01:29:38.841 No, no, we'll just, whatever time you got. 01:29:38.921 --> 01:29:39.582 Let's get into it. 01:29:39.602 --> 01:29:41.062 Half an hour, okay. 01:29:41.543 --> 01:29:42.383 Half an hour, Charles. 01:29:42.783 --> 01:29:43.904 Great, okay. 01:29:43.984 --> 01:29:44.344 Thank you. 01:29:44.824 --> 01:29:49.447 Let's go, and I think, who had his first, I think Anders, you had your hand up first. 01:29:50.187 --> 01:29:53.249 We'll go Anders, then John, so go Anders. 01:29:53.649 --> 01:29:54.890 And we'll make the questions. 01:29:55.010 --> 01:29:57.812 Please, can you ask the questions in two minutes? 01:29:57.872 --> 01:29:58.552 That should be enough. 01:29:58.992 --> 01:29:59.172 Yeah. 01:29:59.893 --> 01:30:00.193 Okay. 01:30:01.391 --> 01:30:05.253 So I think the problem is still ongoing, and it's not just mRNA. 01:30:06.434 --> 01:30:16.600 The latest anti-flu shots, the dentist, anything you do, it's full of the same, which is not really mRNA. 01:30:16.721 --> 01:30:20.083 It is magnetic injections of nanomaterials. 01:30:21.163 --> 01:30:22.764 This is a major issue. 01:30:23.105 --> 01:30:24.846 The historical issue is that 01:30:26.005 --> 01:30:26.905 It was a fraud. 01:30:28.126 --> 01:30:39.648 Robert Koch, he defined the protocol and basically there has never been any evidence of any virus according to Robert Koch protocol. 01:30:40.369 --> 01:30:53.492 So, and this has been pushed for 120 years and people still, most people believe they need to take any vaccination because there is a claimed virus which does not exist according to scientific method. 01:30:55.851 --> 01:30:56.972 So this is one problem. 01:30:57.172 --> 01:31:15.324 The second problem is that for 170 years, people have been polluted with radiology, with electromagnetic frequencies, which has increased a million times or more the last 25 years. 01:31:16.985 --> 01:31:18.326 And this radiology 01:31:19.617 --> 01:31:36.853 it gives recently digital pulses into the humans, into the magnetic material, which causes another antenna in the body, which is then causing the harm to a big extent. 01:31:37.934 --> 01:31:45.180 And this is the main problem, in my opinion, that you have this mechanism, not just from the 01:31:47.737 --> 01:31:55.041 injections, but now from the chemtrails, from the polluted food, water, milk, anything. 01:31:56.042 --> 01:32:03.506 And this is the GM, it is the pesticide, it is the water, and this is the whole program. 01:32:03.606 --> 01:32:05.948 It's a total extermination program. 01:32:06.128 --> 01:32:07.929 I assess now... What's your question? 01:32:08.169 --> 01:32:08.809 Now the question. 01:32:09.930 --> 01:32:14.993 Yeah, this is the problem of fraud in science and people 01:32:15.754 --> 01:32:26.003 don't realize this and I will just ask can you please look into this Dr. Suraj Bhakti because this is the wider context of the problem. 01:32:27.267 --> 01:32:34.331 Well, if I may just briefly answer, all of this is overwhelming me. 01:32:35.532 --> 01:32:38.333 My capacity is limited, simply. 01:32:39.194 --> 01:32:48.960 And I have to focus my energy on subjects that I think I can handle. 01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:54.423 Now, everything that you say may well be true, and I'm afraid they are true. 01:32:55.163 --> 01:32:58.706 But I do not have the capacity to enter into these fields. 01:32:59.507 --> 01:33:01.668 I hope you realize this. 01:33:01.708 --> 01:33:02.469 I'm retired. 01:33:05.331 --> 01:33:07.553 We have a little family to take care of. 01:33:08.354 --> 01:33:14.499 And this Corona business has been sapping my energy for four and a half years now. 01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:23.406 So I think this has to be left over to other people like you and others who are in on the subject. 01:33:25.706 --> 01:33:26.927 Very good, Sukrit. 01:33:28.148 --> 01:33:33.112 And Anders is fighting the good fight, so he will continue, as will Mark Steele, as will others. 01:33:33.192 --> 01:33:35.353 So Sukrit, thank you for that response. 01:33:35.434 --> 01:33:46.162 Nick, is there anything you want to say on Anders' proposition on the whole question of 5G and the impact of the injections plus the 5G EMRs and the like? 01:33:49.605 --> 01:33:51.827 So, are you talking to us, Nick? 01:33:52.227 --> 01:33:52.448 Yes. 01:33:53.188 --> 01:33:53.649 Yes, Nick. 01:33:53.689 --> 01:33:54.630 Oh, sorry. 01:33:55.390 --> 01:33:58.973 If you want to make a comment, just put your hand up. 01:33:59.154 --> 01:34:00.315 We'll just keep going to the questions. 01:34:00.395 --> 01:34:00.695 Okay. 01:34:01.335 --> 01:34:01.616 Okay. 01:34:01.656 --> 01:34:04.919 Yeah, I do have one short comment on the radiation story. 01:34:06.019 --> 01:34:25.085 I think it's a very interesting area, and I'm certainly receptive to opinions, but the one thing I would point out is that dose response is largely ignored by the most ardent activists in this field, and I think they do so to tremendous harm to their arguments. 01:34:27.808 --> 01:34:35.357 To talk about a million-fold increase, for example, yeah, I can imagine that the total volume of waves being pumped out has gone up a million-fold. 01:34:35.858 --> 01:34:40.744 But there's this notion of nonlinear dose response, which is 01:34:41.685 --> 01:34:43.426 just universal. 01:34:43.866 --> 01:34:46.928 Water has a nonlinear dose response. 01:34:47.208 --> 01:34:49.529 COVID vaccines have a nonlinear dose response. 01:34:49.869 --> 01:34:52.230 Everything you can imagine has a nonlinear dose response. 01:34:52.630 --> 01:34:58.113 There's a range during which is potentially helpful and then a range at which it gets very dangerous. 01:34:58.553 --> 01:35:02.695 If you sleep with a 5G transmitter next to your bed, it's almost certainly harmful. 01:35:03.175 --> 01:35:08.277 But people get a bit too doctrinaire in the absence of robust 01:35:09.918 --> 01:35:15.062 not just robust studies, but even robust explanations for how this harm would take place. 01:35:16.023 --> 01:35:21.307 So I'm receptive, but I'm not going down the rabbit hole with any venom and force. 01:35:21.887 --> 01:35:24.609 Because I don't think the answers have been delivered. 01:35:25.990 --> 01:35:26.791 Absolutely right. 01:35:27.711 --> 01:35:30.914 That's what I tried to do as well, but I'm not as successful as you. 01:35:33.023 --> 01:35:45.747 But I've realized in this group tonight, I can see a little team that we can assemble around Ron Johnson, because he was more or less asking for that, and I'll contact you after the meeting. 01:35:45.887 --> 01:35:57.770 So, but I don't want to say who, but I think I can see a team forming, and I hope that, Sukrit, you don't want to be part of the team, it sounds like, Sukrit, but maybe you can be our 01:35:59.275 --> 01:36:03.496 executive advisor, or whatever you want to call it, you know. 01:36:03.596 --> 01:36:07.258 Or we can appoint you to Ron Johnson as his executive advisor. 01:36:08.678 --> 01:36:11.619 As long as I don't have to do too much, it's all right. 01:36:12.059 --> 01:36:12.479 Well said. 01:36:12.499 --> 01:36:14.260 All right, let's keep going with the questions. 01:36:14.300 --> 01:36:16.021 John, look out, and then Julie. 01:36:16.901 --> 01:36:18.882 Look, we've got a John and a Julie in a gym. 01:36:19.022 --> 01:36:19.282 Gosh. 01:36:21.863 --> 01:36:27.925 I had a question for Ron Johnson, and I had a question for JJ, and they're both gone. 01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:34.847 Dr. Bhakti, I'll throw this at you just to see if you have an opinion. 01:36:39.049 --> 01:36:41.270 Listen to JJ's last presentation. 01:36:41.350 --> 01:36:50.634 He brought up this whole new angle here about pure oxygen, 60 liters per minute causing harm. 01:36:52.215 --> 01:36:55.156 I have yet to hear anybody explain this to me. 01:36:55.897 --> 01:37:02.019 How does, where does that leave hyperbaric oxygen as a therapy? 01:37:03.562 --> 01:37:05.503 it, are we harming ourselves with that? 01:37:05.583 --> 01:37:13.527 I mean, let me just say before you answer, I've gotten into one of those tanks once for about an hour, but I don't know what was being administered. 01:37:13.567 --> 01:37:15.328 I know it was oxygen. 01:37:15.368 --> 01:37:16.429 I know it was concentrated. 01:37:16.469 --> 01:37:17.869 I know it was a couple of atmospheres. 01:37:18.530 --> 01:37:19.130 That's all I know. 01:37:19.150 --> 01:37:20.431 I don't know how much I got. 01:37:20.951 --> 01:37:22.332 I felt great afterwards. 01:37:22.832 --> 01:37:24.453 Do we need to back away from that? 01:37:25.540 --> 01:37:29.002 No, listen, I'm not a pulmonologist, all right? 01:37:29.022 --> 01:37:31.122 I just want to say one thing. 01:37:31.663 --> 01:37:48.050 There is no general answer to such a question, because hyperbaric oxygen is indicated in certain diseases and illnesses, but certainly not in people with respiratory diseases like corona. 01:37:49.130 --> 01:37:51.231 And there Jay is completely right. 01:37:51.852 --> 01:38:02.279 If you administer something that is potentially toxic and dangerous to the wrong patients, you kill them. 01:38:02.759 --> 01:38:16.668 And it's been known all the time that this hyperbaric oxygen therapy for so-called COVID patients was a mistake, was the wrong indication. 01:38:18.385 --> 01:38:37.172 Maybe I've got this mixed up, but it seems like, correct me somebody if I misheard this, but I thought he was saying that this was the first cause, not the second cause, and I may have that wrong. 01:38:37.392 --> 01:38:40.254 Yeah, it's not hyperbaric, it's high flow. 01:38:40.314 --> 01:38:41.035 It's a distinction. 01:38:41.495 --> 01:38:44.637 High flow oxygen is administered through a nasal cannula. 01:38:45.138 --> 01:38:55.405 Hyperbaric oxygen is administered at pressure in a unit designed to basically to layer on pressure beyond normal atmospheric pressure. 01:38:55.725 --> 01:38:57.246 They're two very different types of treatment. 01:38:59.588 --> 01:39:02.329 Thank you for that clarification, Nick. 01:39:02.789 --> 01:39:08.872 So the hyperbaric oxygen is administered to Djokovic, John? 01:39:10.752 --> 01:39:15.974 Well, Nick, I think that in Germany they were using hyperbaric. 01:39:16.475 --> 01:39:19.996 They were intubated and they pumped the oxygen in. 01:39:21.161 --> 01:39:21.541 Okay. 01:39:21.641 --> 01:39:21.841 Yeah. 01:39:21.861 --> 01:39:31.784 So there may have been slight positive pressure, but it's not the same as getting into a pressure vessel and going up to like diving depth pressures of oxygen. 01:39:32.324 --> 01:39:34.444 And I think- But they were intubated and ventilated. 01:39:35.405 --> 01:39:35.805 Yes. 01:39:36.185 --> 01:39:39.766 So with ventilators or prior to ventilation, that's the problem. 01:39:40.246 --> 01:39:46.107 They would put these patients on nasal cannulas administering almost pure oxygen. 01:39:46.127 --> 01:39:47.087 No, no, no. 01:39:47.227 --> 01:39:49.288 In Germany, they were immediately intubated. 01:39:50.049 --> 01:39:52.171 Yes, yeah, I'm aware that that happened. 01:39:52.211 --> 01:39:54.752 In America, though. 01:39:54.812 --> 01:39:55.633 Yeah. 01:39:56.534 --> 01:39:56.754 Yeah. 01:39:57.594 --> 01:40:08.302 But do you remember there was that Kyle, that Dr. Kyle Sedell, who came out and blew open the tragedy of the ventilators and said, what we should be doing is high flow nasal oxygen. 01:40:08.802 --> 01:40:16.788 And that was a mistake, because what happened was the high flow nasal oxygen took perfectly healthy people and did lung damage, and then they put them on ventilators. 01:40:16.828 --> 01:40:17.208 So that was 01:40:18.129 --> 01:40:19.549 actually a core part of the scam. 01:40:19.829 --> 01:40:30.151 And JJ speaks very clearly on this, and has read the enormous literature showing that this type of treatment is devastating and to be avoided. 01:40:30.191 --> 01:40:33.992 But it became standard in a large number of countries, including South Africa. 01:40:34.452 --> 01:40:34.652 Yeah. 01:40:36.252 --> 01:40:37.012 So he was right. 01:40:38.373 --> 01:40:38.613 Who? 01:40:38.733 --> 01:40:39.113 JJ? 01:40:39.373 --> 01:40:40.493 Yes, JJ was right. 01:40:40.533 --> 01:40:40.753 Yes. 01:40:41.033 --> 01:40:43.094 Okay, so I have nothing more to add. 01:40:43.714 --> 01:40:44.714 Okay, on we go. 01:40:45.254 --> 01:40:45.554 Julie. 01:40:47.005 --> 01:40:47.485 Hi, you guys. 01:40:47.505 --> 01:40:48.206 Hi, everybody. 01:40:48.226 --> 01:40:48.926 Hi, Sukrit. 01:40:49.827 --> 01:40:54.670 I wanted to give you maybe a little bit of hope, and I can hear it in your voice, and we're all kind of just exhausted. 01:40:54.710 --> 01:40:56.492 I mean, God, it's almost been four years, five years. 01:40:57.432 --> 01:41:01.035 So yeah, so Ron and I are fighting at the county level here in California. 01:41:01.495 --> 01:41:06.999 We were at Colusa County this morning, and it was probably the most positive reaction I've had from supervisors, right? 01:41:07.579 --> 01:41:09.100 And I think Ron would agree. 01:41:09.601 --> 01:41:13.003 And what I asked of them was, look, you've got, it's a small county. 01:41:13.143 --> 01:41:13.423 It's 22,000 people. 01:41:14.724 --> 01:41:17.146 So probably of that county, 12,000 are vaccinated. 01:41:17.527 --> 01:41:22.251 Hey, listen, why don't you send a letter to your entire county and ask them how their health condition is today? 01:41:22.532 --> 01:41:23.853 They know who's vaccinated. 01:41:23.873 --> 01:41:26.896 They've got their address and their names in the immunization database. 01:41:27.016 --> 01:41:31.841 So it's very simple to send them a letter or just send the vaccinated a letter and say, hey, we know you were vaccinated. 01:41:32.161 --> 01:41:33.742 We've heard that there's some potential issues. 01:41:34.063 --> 01:41:35.124 What is your health like today? 01:41:35.464 --> 01:41:35.845 Is it good? 01:41:35.885 --> 01:41:36.545 Is it better? 01:41:36.605 --> 01:41:37.426 Is it indifferent? 01:41:37.747 --> 01:41:39.189 And maybe the person's dead, et cetera. 01:41:39.249 --> 01:41:51.504 So I think if we start at those county levels, and I'm going to send Ron a message about that because, you know, he can look at Wisconsin, right, and go, look, Wisconsin's got like, I don't know, 3.9 million people of which 75% are vaccinated. 01:41:51.544 --> 01:41:52.425 Send those people a letter. 01:41:52.485 --> 01:41:54.647 And we're the clinical trial of vaccinated people. 01:41:55.188 --> 01:41:55.928 How do you study us? 01:41:56.068 --> 01:41:59.349 Send us a freaking letter and ask us, is your health better, worse, et cetera? 01:41:59.489 --> 01:42:00.529 Did you follow VAERS report? 01:42:00.569 --> 01:42:01.129 That kind of thing. 01:42:01.369 --> 01:42:03.470 I know it costs money, but that's just a simple idea. 01:42:03.970 --> 01:42:07.250 But yeah, this Colusa County, they defied the lockdowns. 01:42:07.310 --> 01:42:09.751 They defied Gavin Newsom and said, no, we're not locking down. 01:42:10.351 --> 01:42:14.872 So these supervisors are probably the bravest, most patriotic freedom fighters that I've faced so far. 01:42:14.952 --> 01:42:16.752 So they were pretty impressed. 01:42:16.792 --> 01:42:18.992 We gave them a lot of material in their hands. 01:42:19.152 --> 01:42:22.233 And so we're hoping that they'll follow up with us and we'll get their sheriff involved. 01:42:22.873 --> 01:42:24.654 My second point is Moderna. 01:42:24.774 --> 01:42:26.595 I don't know why we're not going after Moderna. 01:42:26.975 --> 01:42:28.336 Moderna is an American company. 01:42:28.576 --> 01:42:30.597 It's the one that was created, I think, by the DOD. 01:42:30.617 --> 01:42:39.242 Stéphane Banzel is the CEO, this French guy who worked for this BioMiro that helped build the lab in Wuhan. 01:42:39.403 --> 01:42:48.488 I don't know why we don't have Banzel in front of Congress and hold Moderna, whose manufacturing facilities are in America, and focus on Moderna and not this beast of Pfizer. 01:42:49.048 --> 01:42:52.269 Number three, I put the nine second clip of Javier Becerra. 01:42:52.289 --> 01:42:59.231 So HHS Secretary Javier Becerra, the highest level man over the CDC, FDA, CMS, NIH. 01:42:59.732 --> 01:43:06.414 He's got nine seconds on a YouTube video at the White House briefing saying that the vaccines are killing blacks at two times the rate of whites. 01:43:07.114 --> 01:43:21.199 If Ron Johnson takes that nine-second clip and blasts it in a congressional hearing, go on the floor and blast this nine-second clip and call out Xavier Becerra and take him to task, to me, that would be another big opportunity that he can move forward on. 01:43:21.999 --> 01:43:26.220 And then just last, you know, americansforhealthfreedom.org, that's Dr. Mary Talley-Bowden. 01:43:26.240 --> 01:43:30.442 There's a few hundred other candidates and elected officials that are trying really hard. 01:43:30.482 --> 01:43:33.183 I just don't think they can see the forest through the trees. 01:43:33.243 --> 01:43:36.504 And so, yeah, if we get anything together with Ron Johnson, 01:43:36.724 --> 01:43:47.032 being a vaccine-injured person working in these clinics, I have a ton of ideas and a ton of information on how things were administered and stored and the problems, and I think I can give them a lot of ideas. 01:43:47.112 --> 01:43:51.275 But Sukrit, we're trying, and I think together we will, you know, get through this. 01:43:51.675 --> 01:43:56.359 My only other question for you, I asked it last time, how's the king of Thailand's daughter? 01:43:56.379 --> 01:43:58.480 She's the one that was vaccine-injured. 01:43:58.560 --> 01:43:58.960 Thank you. 01:44:00.442 --> 01:44:02.423 Well, there is no answer to the last. 01:44:03.924 --> 01:44:08.107 I am afraid that she is not amongst us. 01:44:11.090 --> 01:44:14.893 You know that he also has a son who has a turbo cancer. 01:44:17.375 --> 01:44:18.455 A doctor in America. 01:44:20.237 --> 01:44:20.457 Wow. 01:44:22.479 --> 01:44:24.540 Sukrit also vaccinated the son? 01:44:24.860 --> 01:44:26.742 Yes, yes, of course, they're all vaccinated. 01:44:27.543 --> 01:44:36.557 So Julie, the question that Sukrit is asking us to look at, and you might put it on the agenda, is to get the county supervisors. 01:44:36.778 --> 01:44:40.043 I think there are 57 counties in California, is that correct? 01:44:40.684 --> 01:44:40.824 Yeah, 58. 01:44:42.296 --> 01:44:47.821 58. 01:44:42.376 --> 01:44:47.821 So what was the lawfulness of the VAX authorizations in the county? 01:44:47.841 --> 01:44:51.224 And just keep asking that question. 01:44:53.306 --> 01:44:57.410 Because Julie and Ron Owens are going to these counties. 01:44:58.531 --> 01:45:03.476 Investigate the lawfulness of the VAX authorizations. 01:45:04.518 --> 01:45:06.279 You know, the big thing for them, it's the money, right? 01:45:06.339 --> 01:45:12.543 So the counties were paid money to administer these shots, and they got immunization assistance money. 01:45:12.603 --> 01:45:15.304 So my county, they don't operate off any authority. 01:45:15.344 --> 01:45:16.485 They point to the state, right? 01:45:16.505 --> 01:45:19.267 It's the CDPH, it's the state that got the authorization. 01:45:19.667 --> 01:45:25.070 But because they got money, they're scared that if they, you know, defy the state that they'll have to pay the money. 01:45:25.150 --> 01:45:26.030 It's just ridiculous. 01:45:26.090 --> 01:45:26.511 It's stupid. 01:45:26.551 --> 01:45:28.452 But there was no authority at the county level. 01:45:28.772 --> 01:45:30.793 but they can certainly lock it up and stop it. 01:45:30.873 --> 01:45:34.374 Our sheriff can go lock up the vials at the public health department where she stores them. 01:45:34.734 --> 01:45:44.777 So it's finding brave people, brave sheriff with the brave supervisors and the ones that will wanna defy and push Gavin Newsom and say, screw you, we don't care. 01:45:44.857 --> 01:45:48.518 And Shasta County's one, Colusa County's one, and we'll see where the others fall out. 01:45:48.538 --> 01:45:51.299 Okay, yep, well said. 01:45:52.579 --> 01:45:54.380 All right, thank you, Julie. 01:45:54.480 --> 01:45:54.640 Jim. 01:45:57.054 --> 01:45:57.735 Thank you very much. 01:45:57.835 --> 01:46:03.319 And Senator Johnson asked a really good question. 01:46:04.860 --> 01:46:06.141 Why does nobody want to know? 01:46:07.462 --> 01:46:09.703 Why does nobody in Congress want to know? 01:46:11.104 --> 01:46:19.830 And so, Dr. Bhakti, you're the last man standing here, and I really appreciate all your efforts from the beginning of this. 01:46:19.850 --> 01:46:24.173 The answer to that is they have no courage 01:46:26.398 --> 01:46:33.201 There may be more than that. 01:46:33.361 --> 01:46:42.045 For instance, the inquiry as to who killed JFK, even Trump was scared to release who killed JFK. 01:46:42.065 --> 01:46:44.886 And we now know that it's intelligence agents who are involved. 01:46:48.753 --> 01:46:56.519 That leads us back to the intelligence community involvement with Pfizer as an intelligence operation, Gilead as an intelligence operation, Department of Defense. 01:46:57.240 --> 01:47:03.785 And the former head of Gilead was Don Rumsfeld before he became Secretary of Defense. 01:47:03.805 --> 01:47:10.190 So we know that the Department of Defense is intertwined with the biopharmaceutical medical industry. 01:47:10.971 --> 01:47:26.168 The issue is the politicians are selfish and by their very nature they're always thinking of themselves, like many human beings in fact, but they're always thinking and what effect anything they might say might have on their political career. 01:47:26.508 --> 01:47:28.731 And we don't care about their political careers. 01:47:29.071 --> 01:47:29.812 They think we do. 01:47:32.034 --> 01:47:43.678 So my question for Dr. Bhakti is, it looks like the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, there's a getting a lot of press, the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in vaccine or virus form seems to be a biological weapon. 01:47:45.478 --> 01:47:53.281 And this biological weapon, you know, there's a biological weapons convention that was signed by most of the countries. 01:47:55.922 --> 01:47:59.623 And except it looks like Israel may not have signed it. 01:48:00.763 --> 01:48:05.687 And so the question is really, are they the only ones who could have false flagged China with this? 01:48:06.367 --> 01:48:28.264 And would there be a, and since PNAC, New American Century document that was written by Victoria Newland's husband, and I put it in the chat earlier, says that there may be a use for a genetically specific agent 01:48:29.659 --> 01:48:36.661 Doesn't this all fit with the Georgia Guidestones that says depopulate the earth down to 500 million? 01:48:37.282 --> 01:48:47.365 Doesn't this look like a biological weapon that has been deployed to genetically specifically take down the world in the name of climate change by the people who invented it? 01:48:48.185 --> 01:48:56.028 And if so, and the Department of Defense is in on it, how are we gonna stop the Department of Defense teamed up with various countries 01:48:57.308 --> 01:49:07.601 including our own government that have agreed on depopulating the earth in the model of the Georgia Guidestones that we're standing up 90 feet tall in granite that were just blown up and we don't know who did it. 01:49:08.181 --> 01:49:09.103 We don't know who blew it up. 01:49:10.865 --> 01:49:11.646 How are we going to stop this? 01:49:12.509 --> 01:49:17.651 Well, Jim, listen, of course I agree with everything that you say. 01:49:19.972 --> 01:49:27.535 I also think that this global agenda has been created by a handful of devils, okay? 01:49:28.096 --> 01:49:31.117 And it's been carefully planned over decades. 01:49:31.897 --> 01:49:40.181 And now we are living through... Yeah, well... 01:49:41.795 --> 01:49:42.195 Tyranny. 01:49:42.635 --> 01:49:43.715 Tyranny, Sukrit. 01:49:43.795 --> 01:49:45.216 Not only tyranny. 01:49:45.296 --> 01:49:46.516 Well, nearly. 01:49:47.216 --> 01:49:48.136 It's the end game. 01:49:48.316 --> 01:49:49.997 It's the end game. 01:49:50.037 --> 01:49:50.837 Yes. 01:49:51.497 --> 01:50:06.080 So my only answer to that is that I see no way of stopping it by mass protests because of many reasons which we will not go into now. 01:50:06.720 --> 01:50:08.180 That is why I chose 01:50:09.554 --> 01:50:12.795 I have chosen the other way, which is through politics. 01:50:13.356 --> 01:50:17.518 Now, here, I would not entirely agree with Stephen. 01:50:17.998 --> 01:50:27.082 You say politicians are always greedy and thinking of their own... Selfish, I said, Socrates. 01:50:28.010 --> 01:50:31.951 selfish and narcissistic. 01:50:32.271 --> 01:50:34.372 They think we care about their careers. 01:50:36.273 --> 01:50:37.853 But there are exceptions. 01:50:37.973 --> 01:50:39.054 There are exceptions. 01:50:39.074 --> 01:50:41.555 Look at Ron Johnson. 01:50:42.715 --> 01:50:54.659 And thankfully, I'm very thankful for this, the exceptions in East Germany and in Austria. 01:50:55.663 --> 01:50:57.563 have now come into power. 01:50:57.783 --> 01:51:07.705 You see, this is the difference between these states and America and the rest of the world, because they are out to change things. 01:51:08.346 --> 01:51:18.248 And if things can be changed by the politicians themselves, they will, if they have the will to do so. 01:51:19.028 --> 01:51:24.689 And there's just been, you know, Paul asking for the opinion of people 01:51:25.154 --> 01:51:26.135 in the different parties. 01:51:27.116 --> 01:51:39.871 And 75% of the party that has won the elections in East Germany say they want to have an investigation committee set up in Parliament. 01:51:40.872 --> 01:51:41.873 And they're going to do it. 01:51:43.120 --> 01:51:45.081 And the same in Austria. 01:51:45.161 --> 01:51:47.422 So it's a different situation, Stephen. 01:51:47.462 --> 01:51:49.063 You can't say it's the same situation. 01:51:49.103 --> 01:51:52.505 Well, let's hope they're bright enough to choose the right witnesses, Socrates. 01:51:52.565 --> 01:51:54.826 You need to tell them which witnesses to listen to. 01:51:55.467 --> 01:52:00.389 Well, Stephen, this is not a big secret, but of course I've already been asked. 01:52:00.970 --> 01:52:01.170 Good. 01:52:03.211 --> 01:52:03.671 Very good. 01:52:03.911 --> 01:52:10.415 There's another issue, and that is, it has to come from bottom up, from local, 01:52:11.308 --> 01:52:24.038 from local municipalities, from local communities, because the German government, just like the Australian government, just like many other countries, are given instructions by the globalists. 01:52:24.338 --> 01:52:25.719 They're given instructions. 01:52:25.799 --> 01:52:29.422 If you don't behave in a particular way, we need to understand that. 01:52:29.742 --> 01:52:30.443 That's the pressure. 01:52:30.763 --> 01:52:32.524 The US also has that same pressure. 01:52:32.844 --> 01:52:34.606 Bottom up, they don't have that control. 01:52:35.635 --> 01:52:44.967 But Charles, you see, the thing is that these new parties that have now taken over are not under control. 01:52:45.187 --> 01:52:47.590 They have not been bought and they will not be bought. 01:52:50.339 --> 01:52:52.320 They soon will be, probably, Sukharit. 01:52:52.340 --> 01:52:54.921 No, no, don't be... Stephen, let's not start discussing. 01:52:54.941 --> 01:52:56.102 Don't give us that negative shit. 01:52:56.182 --> 01:52:57.203 No, I don't know. 01:52:57.223 --> 01:52:58.683 I just have hope. 01:52:59.123 --> 01:52:59.444 OK. 01:52:59.464 --> 01:53:03.346 Well, I have hope, but I've lost a bit of faith in human beings. 01:53:03.866 --> 01:53:04.486 I haven't. 01:53:04.626 --> 01:53:04.906 I haven't. 01:53:04.926 --> 01:53:05.006 OK. 01:53:05.127 --> 01:53:06.947 I know this guy personally. 01:53:07.068 --> 01:53:08.868 We're befriended. 01:53:08.928 --> 01:53:09.249 Right. 01:53:09.289 --> 01:53:10.749 We've got two hands up. 01:53:10.769 --> 01:53:11.710 We've got Zorael. 01:53:11.790 --> 01:53:12.750 Stay here, Sukharit. 01:53:12.770 --> 01:53:14.832 We'll let you go after James Rogowski. 01:53:14.852 --> 01:53:16.352 But Zorael in Switzerland. 01:53:17.293 --> 01:53:17.413 OK. 01:53:19.380 --> 01:53:23.662 Good evening, Dr. Bhakti, and thank you for taking your time with us this evening. 01:53:23.782 --> 01:53:27.945 I would like to just clarify what Jim was saying a while ago. 01:53:28.445 --> 01:53:43.894 It was Robert Kagan who papered the project for New American Century, where they spoke about the cataclysmic changes that the United States has to go through, bar something like Pearl Harbor, for them to change the system in the United States. 01:53:44.654 --> 01:53:53.937 But coming back to you, certainly back to your comment of the King of Thailand's daughter who died, and I'm very sorry, and his son also. 01:53:53.957 --> 01:53:56.198 It's not an official statement. 01:53:56.238 --> 01:53:59.318 This has not officially been made. 01:53:59.498 --> 01:54:02.339 I know, but I have been following the story for quite some time. 01:54:02.419 --> 01:54:07.481 I did want to know if there was any legal consequences, because we did hear 01:54:07.961 --> 01:54:14.724 that there was something coming for the WHO, that there was something, some kind of legal steps being taken. 01:54:14.784 --> 01:54:16.525 Can you speak about that? 01:54:17.286 --> 01:54:21.688 No, as you know, the situation in Thailand is complex. 01:54:21.948 --> 01:54:23.048 It is really complex. 01:54:23.729 --> 01:54:30.772 And I cannot and do not want to speak about it at the moment, because there are huge movements 01:54:33.652 --> 01:54:35.374 that are undercover, okay? 01:54:35.414 --> 01:54:37.255 Okay, understand. 01:54:37.275 --> 01:54:44.421 I'd like to come back to the, to the turbo cancer, which you spoke about also, because I have two data. 01:54:44.441 --> 01:54:48.304 I have actually data from Switzerland in, from 2021 and compared to 2016, 17, 18, all the way to 2021. 01:54:48.504 --> 01:54:50.566 In the year 2020 to 2021, there was an increase of 249%. 01:55:02.409 --> 01:55:05.290 of cancer between the ages of zero to 14. 01:55:05.450 --> 01:55:06.070 Sure. 01:55:06.090 --> 01:55:14.173 Do you have any new information for years 2022, 23 and 2024? 01:55:14.773 --> 01:55:15.413 Is there any? 01:55:16.073 --> 01:55:19.754 I don't keep track of the numbers, because numbers don't really interest me. 01:55:20.674 --> 01:55:25.856 What interests me is the mechanism of how these develop. 01:55:26.536 --> 01:55:29.557 And there, there's very, very interesting new data. 01:55:30.417 --> 01:55:32.318 which, however, I will not talk about. 01:55:34.179 --> 01:55:41.461 Many paths lead to Rome, and many paths lead to cancer in the vaccinated. 01:55:42.361 --> 01:55:43.782 They're now being unraveled. 01:55:45.802 --> 01:55:49.445 So some extremely exciting data coming out now. 01:55:50.286 --> 01:55:53.209 No, the question is, is there anywhere to find this data? 01:55:53.369 --> 01:55:54.290 No, not yet. 01:55:54.450 --> 01:55:55.291 It's not been published. 01:55:55.731 --> 01:56:06.801 Because I also have from Germany the excessive deaths, which was also on the data, on the file that I'm looking at, you can see that it was over, well over 150%. 01:56:06.901 --> 01:56:07.401 Sure, sure, sure. 01:56:07.421 --> 01:56:09.223 And there's no doubt at all 01:56:12.950 --> 01:56:14.111 the vaccines are doing this. 01:56:14.771 --> 01:56:15.452 There is no doubt. 01:56:16.713 --> 01:56:22.497 The question is how to prove it scientifically, with which data. 01:56:23.698 --> 01:56:28.601 And right now, very, very exciting things are happening. 01:56:29.322 --> 01:56:29.642 Really. 01:56:30.963 --> 01:56:36.267 So that with God's help, I'm not doing this work. 01:56:36.347 --> 01:56:38.629 It's the team, you know, around us. 01:56:40.268 --> 01:56:45.695 And they teamed up with Kevin McKernan, the German group, our group. 01:56:47.778 --> 01:56:55.068 Really, they have already discovered something that is so stunning. 01:56:57.743 --> 01:57:03.968 I tell them they should publish this as soon as possible, but they don't want to publish it until they know all the details. 01:57:04.068 --> 01:57:06.610 And I keep telling them, don't go for the details. 01:57:06.690 --> 01:57:10.574 It's enough now, you know, this data alone. 01:57:11.154 --> 01:57:12.075 The big idea, yeah. 01:57:13.362 --> 01:57:16.884 No, the data alone is showing something that is so stunning. 01:57:18.164 --> 01:57:22.607 And should be enough to stop the whole thing. 01:57:22.627 --> 01:57:41.176 When you see the my big worry, worry, and I've been carrying this worry around with my myself for two years, is that so much attention is being paid to the spike protein. 01:57:42.222 --> 01:57:46.743 And everyone is saying that it's a spike, it's a bioweapon, you know, and all this. 01:57:49.284 --> 01:57:57.925 What I'm afraid of is that the guys behind the scenes are going to say, okay, we'll take down the COVID vaccine. 01:58:00.066 --> 01:58:07.287 But instead, all the other vaccines are going to come through the back door, as they are already doing now. 01:58:08.248 --> 01:58:09.588 And I want to warn the world 01:58:10.492 --> 01:58:20.223 not to fall for this ruse and not to give them the chance to step down with the COVID and then come in with the others. 01:58:20.944 --> 01:58:21.165 Correct. 01:58:21.185 --> 01:58:21.625 Absolutely. 01:58:21.645 --> 01:58:24.548 Because the others are going to cause exactly the same thing. 01:58:26.921 --> 01:58:39.792 Maybe that was why Barik was looking into the spike protein for 30 years, because they wanted to create this story, you know, about the spike protein, it was COVID was all about the spike protein. 01:58:40.113 --> 01:58:44.897 Yes, they could then take it away and then push the others, which they introduced. 01:58:46.098 --> 01:58:49.501 And I said, so I was warning people two and a half years ago, 01:58:50.939 --> 01:58:51.439 Malmo. 01:58:52.039 --> 01:58:52.819 I give this talk. 01:58:53.199 --> 01:58:59.021 And we've had Curtis Coste since 1991 warning against injections. 01:59:00.281 --> 01:59:04.902 So, everybody, no fucking injections. 01:59:04.962 --> 01:59:05.842 Thank you, Zarael. 01:59:05.862 --> 01:59:06.402 We'll go on. 01:59:07.082 --> 01:59:07.682 Thank you. 01:59:07.702 --> 01:59:13.064 Can I just say, Zarael, you know the project for the New American Century document you were talking about? 01:59:13.504 --> 01:59:13.624 Yes. 01:59:13.644 --> 01:59:17.765 So, I was very familiar with the people who drafted that, you know, 01:59:20.365 --> 01:59:25.607 Yeah, Shaney, Rumsfeld, a lot of them. 01:59:25.647 --> 01:59:26.768 Yeah, Pearl, another. 01:59:28.108 --> 01:59:39.933 And the line, the famous line that you were referring to, I think, was the Project for the New American Century was saying that all these changes are necessary for the good of America in the next century. 01:59:41.134 --> 01:59:44.936 And so it was the neocons who were behind this, as I understood it. 01:59:45.176 --> 01:59:45.376 Yes. 01:59:45.936 --> 01:59:54.018 And even the attorney general at the time, whose name was, it's gone, he was in on it as well. 01:59:54.298 --> 02:00:10.742 But the famous line you're talking about was that we, of course, we cannot do this without, including wars in Afghanistan and other states, you know, we cannot do this without a Pearl Harbor type event. 02:00:11.102 --> 02:00:11.503 Exactly. 02:00:11.543 --> 02:00:12.583 That was before 02:00:13.183 --> 02:00:13.943 9-11. 02:00:13.963 --> 02:00:18.145 9-11 was that Pearl Harbor type event. 02:00:18.265 --> 02:00:20.845 Exactly, that's correct. 02:00:21.365 --> 02:00:23.086 All right, thank you very much. 02:00:23.506 --> 02:00:24.186 Thanks, Uriel. 02:00:24.747 --> 02:00:25.287 James. 02:00:29.268 --> 02:00:31.869 Hey, thank you for all of this information. 02:00:32.489 --> 02:00:36.050 Dr. Bakhti, I want to ask you a very simple question. 02:00:37.470 --> 02:00:42.752 Can you repeat very clearly what your goal 02:00:43.684 --> 02:00:43.824 is. 02:00:44.764 --> 02:00:51.545 What I heard involved the WHO, and I've done a little bit of work on the WHO. 02:00:52.346 --> 02:01:00.927 And the question is, are you concerned mostly about the mRNA platform or vaccines in general? 02:01:01.167 --> 02:01:06.208 And I'm here to participate and support your efforts however I might. 02:01:06.228 --> 02:01:08.348 I put my contact information in there many times. 02:01:08.888 --> 02:01:11.369 Please feel free to have anybody on your team reach out to me. 02:01:13.306 --> 02:01:19.731 What very clearly are you concerned about and what is the goal that you hope to achieve? 02:01:20.491 --> 02:01:22.753 What is it exactly that you want to stop? 02:01:23.493 --> 02:01:24.154 All right, James. 02:01:24.534 --> 02:01:36.643 Listen, as everyone here knows, this whole war is being pushed 02:01:38.410 --> 02:01:39.230 by the DoD. 02:01:40.151 --> 02:01:44.514 And there are three complexes, right? 02:01:44.974 --> 02:02:00.283 The military-industrial complex, with the creation of weapons, where different nations are encouraged to kill each other, fight each other, and buy everything from the Americans. 02:02:02.984 --> 02:02:03.705 Then you have the 02:02:05.152 --> 02:02:25.108 a military financial complex, where they're going for the money, creating digital currencies so that they can create their own elitist world, and the rest of the world is at their mercy. 02:02:26.349 --> 02:02:27.570 And the third is the 02:02:29.192 --> 02:02:51.630 digital medicinal complex, I don't say pharmaceutical complex, medicinal complex, with which they are going to take control of the health, the minds, and the bodies of the world population. 02:02:53.271 --> 02:02:58.395 And they need all three legs to stomp on. 02:02:59.949 --> 02:03:08.074 If you can sever one leg, this monster will not be able to run anymore with the speed that it needs. 02:03:09.495 --> 02:03:24.104 So my goal is to try to cut the leg of this military medicinal complex. 02:03:25.171 --> 02:03:35.640 Now, the main instrument that they have are the gene-based vaccines, for reasons that we don't have to go into now. 02:03:36.360 --> 02:03:44.146 But the reasons are very clear, very easy to understand, and very convincing. 02:03:45.828 --> 02:03:50.211 Because with these so-called vaccines, they can 02:03:51.722 --> 02:03:58.508 accomplish many things, they can kill many flies at the same time. 02:04:00.049 --> 02:04:17.583 They can control the world population, perform eugenics, sterilization, and at the same time, they can introduce 02:04:21.806 --> 02:04:25.268 particles into the body that will act as transmitters. 02:04:26.408 --> 02:04:28.289 I believe that they are on the way there. 02:04:28.750 --> 02:04:31.871 I don't think it's being done now, but it's going to be done. 02:04:33.992 --> 02:04:50.501 And they can choose whom they want to exterminate, because it's so easy to distribute these vials in a controlled fashion. 02:04:51.693 --> 02:04:56.035 so they can save themselves and get rid of the others. 02:04:56.476 --> 02:04:56.816 All right? 02:04:56.836 --> 02:04:58.076 This is terrible. 02:04:58.797 --> 02:05:09.823 And furthermore, because there's no control over these gene-based vaccines, especially the RNA, it's very, very versatile. 02:05:10.843 --> 02:05:14.285 And they can put into these vials whatever they want. 02:05:15.652 --> 02:05:20.113 And genetic engineering has come a long way now. 02:05:20.813 --> 02:05:28.935 So I know that Bill Gates has been interested in life prolongation medicines, especially for himself. 02:05:30.776 --> 02:05:38.778 And I know that they are developing agents that theoretically may do this. 02:05:40.658 --> 02:05:42.859 So the vision they have is, 02:05:43.951 --> 02:05:55.495 For ourselves, we will have these agents that turn our lives into, you know, paradise for centuries, because we will not die anymore. 02:05:56.415 --> 02:05:58.016 Ridiculous. 02:05:59.496 --> 02:06:00.457 But they believe in this. 02:06:01.117 --> 02:06:03.718 Oh yes, no, I meant they're ridiculous, not you, of course. 02:06:04.471 --> 02:06:07.935 No, of course it won't work. 02:06:07.955 --> 02:06:10.197 Of course it won't work, but they believe it. 02:06:10.878 --> 02:06:11.839 Bill Gates thinks so. 02:06:13.261 --> 02:06:18.827 And therefore they have set everything on this horse. 02:06:20.749 --> 02:06:25.270 And the WHO declared this openly. 02:06:25.710 --> 02:06:29.071 They're going to put everything on an RNA basis. 02:06:30.091 --> 02:06:46.135 Furthermore, they're going to start treating the major simulatory diseases like coronary heart disease, diabetes, all right, with new agents that are all based on the RNA platform. 02:06:47.219 --> 02:06:54.348 Because there's no legislation anymore, you have no processes that they have to go through. 02:06:56.391 --> 02:06:59.374 Authorization, they are automatically authorized. 02:07:01.337 --> 02:07:02.979 And that's why I think 02:07:04.594 --> 02:07:11.120 that this is the Achilles heel that we should, that I myself, I'm going to aim at. 02:07:11.821 --> 02:07:15.264 Stop the RNA vaccines, all of them. 02:07:16.084 --> 02:07:19.708 And with that, we have severed that leg, the third leg there. 02:07:20.608 --> 02:07:20.909 Okay. 02:07:23.851 --> 02:07:25.032 Have I answered your question? 02:07:26.233 --> 02:07:26.794 Yes, you did. 02:07:26.914 --> 02:07:28.315 And, you know, count me in. 02:07:28.475 --> 02:07:28.816 I'm with you. 02:07:28.836 --> 02:07:28.956 I'll 02:07:29.595 --> 02:07:30.035 100 percent. 02:07:30.296 --> 02:07:35.339 And I don't know, Charles or Stephen, one of you said you had thoughts of the team. 02:07:35.719 --> 02:07:39.021 By all means, by all means, count me in. 02:07:40.842 --> 02:07:46.966 James Rutkowski is an expert on, a self-taught expert on the WHO. 02:07:48.390 --> 02:07:49.251 Yes, yes, I know. 02:07:49.752 --> 02:07:50.673 Oh, you know who it is? 02:07:50.753 --> 02:07:51.494 Okay, very good. 02:07:52.074 --> 02:07:52.455 All right. 02:07:52.495 --> 02:07:58.362 Like our last question to you, Sukrit, before Stephen Glenn says he's got a 30 second question. 02:07:58.602 --> 02:07:59.203 Go for it, Glenn. 02:08:00.124 --> 02:08:00.464 Thank you. 02:08:01.405 --> 02:08:07.613 Dr. Bakke, you described something coming along that you think will be a very positive protocol. 02:08:09.187 --> 02:08:25.251 Are you familiar with the Dr. Peter McCullers well-documented spike protein detox, and might that be a useful path for people to start with right now while they wait for whatever is coming along from the group you're working with? 02:08:25.811 --> 02:08:30.792 Well, I'm very hesitant about that because I'm not a great believer 02:08:31.512 --> 02:08:35.293 in the major role that the spike protein itself has. 02:08:36.133 --> 02:08:47.497 All right, I keep saying, guys, listen, quantities play a great role in biology. 02:08:48.057 --> 02:08:52.078 The spike protein itself is certainly a poison, okay? 02:08:52.698 --> 02:08:57.600 But I don't think there's enough of this poison to cause all the damage that we see. 02:08:58.160 --> 02:08:59.861 What one has to realize is that 02:09:02.563 --> 02:09:08.924 If an alien protein is produced by a cell, that cell will become the target of immune attack. 02:09:09.604 --> 02:09:13.465 So one spike protein by itself sitting on a cell will do nothing. 02:09:14.225 --> 02:09:22.006 But if that one spike protein is attacked by the immune system, then an explosion occurs, you see? 02:09:22.426 --> 02:09:31.728 So the damage done by the immune system magnifies thousands of folds the damage that one protein can do 02:09:32.532 --> 02:09:32.812 alone. 02:09:33.373 --> 02:09:46.724 And therefore, I cannot believe that the detoxification protocols can really work. 02:09:47.845 --> 02:09:53.230 I believe in certain things in those protocols, but not all. 02:09:53.250 --> 02:09:54.931 Thank you. 02:09:56.530 --> 02:09:56.930 Thank you. 02:09:57.291 --> 02:09:58.031 Thank you, Glenn. 02:09:58.531 --> 02:09:58.972 All right. 02:09:59.172 --> 02:10:00.793 Sukrit, we know you're tight. 02:10:00.853 --> 02:10:03.214 Stephen, over to you, Stephen, for the last. 02:10:03.234 --> 02:10:04.595 You've got to go, Sukrit, I know. 02:10:04.615 --> 02:10:04.655 OK. 02:10:06.537 --> 02:10:16.503 So I was going to ask you, Sukrit, one of the problems we seem to have amongst the good people on our side is that they don't understand causation. 02:10:17.184 --> 02:10:25.329 And I just wonder whether you could speak about that a little bit to throw light on why it's so difficult to prove causation. 02:10:26.890 --> 02:10:35.496 And also, the other thing I would like to ask you, so as a medical doctor, I think that it's very important that doctors don't just follow protocols. 02:10:35.536 --> 02:10:40.559 In fact, they shouldn't follow any protocols because that takes away their authenticity, if you like. 02:10:40.619 --> 02:10:46.143 It takes away the autonomous doctor who is serving his patient. 02:10:46.904 --> 02:10:56.330 So I think that these evidence-based medicine has led to protocols, and maybe that's why evidence-based medicine was highlighted. 02:10:56.950 --> 02:11:04.413 because it actually took the power away from autonomous doctors who had medical ethics working for their patients. 02:11:04.813 --> 02:11:06.353 And that was the intention, in my opinion. 02:11:06.573 --> 02:11:09.134 So I wonder whether you could speak about those two things. 02:11:09.474 --> 02:11:09.895 No, no. 02:11:10.735 --> 02:11:13.576 Just causation, please, because there was, you know, time. 02:11:13.636 --> 02:11:13.856 All right. 02:11:15.003 --> 02:11:22.005 Listen, causation can be shown if you know where to look for it. 02:11:23.846 --> 02:11:41.791 And as I think we discussed this together three years ago, the way to prove causation was the pathology, to look at the tissues like Virchow did, to find out whether there was something typical. 02:11:46.073 --> 02:11:53.019 pathognomonic, meaning absolutely singular and particular for the vaccination. 02:11:53.820 --> 02:12:04.268 And, and, and four years ago, I said, I feared that we will be seeing lots of clots. 02:12:05.229 --> 02:12:05.709 Absolutely. 02:12:05.730 --> 02:12:06.230 I remember that. 02:12:06.250 --> 02:12:06.330 Yeah. 02:12:07.731 --> 02:12:08.933 That was four years ago. 02:12:08.953 --> 02:12:10.394 And you're dead right. 02:12:11.476 --> 02:12:11.736 Yes. 02:12:11.836 --> 02:12:17.283 But, you know, Stephen, I've never been wrong in anything very important in life. 02:12:17.623 --> 02:12:18.644 No. 02:12:18.945 --> 02:12:25.993 Because what I said and what I'm saying can be read in the textbooks of medicine. 02:12:26.934 --> 02:12:27.335 Absolutely. 02:12:28.639 --> 02:12:29.380 It's all known. 02:12:29.500 --> 02:12:30.660 It's not my discovery. 02:12:31.761 --> 02:12:39.585 I was just saying that if the textbooks are right, then there will be clots forming in all vessels from head to toe. 02:12:39.625 --> 02:12:42.146 You won't know where they are, but they're going to be there. 02:12:42.787 --> 02:12:44.968 And this is what pathologists have found. 02:12:45.728 --> 02:12:54.033 And I also said that there will be quasi autoimmune attack on tissues 02:12:55.083 --> 02:13:02.205 Because as I said just 10 minutes ago, any cell that dares to produce an alien protein is going to come under immune attack. 02:13:02.825 --> 02:13:09.266 And that has also been shown to occur in people who had died after vaccination. 02:13:09.586 --> 02:13:18.849 They see the inflammation, the autoimmune attack in various tissues, from brain, heart, lung, to anything you want. 02:13:18.869 --> 02:13:19.709 Okay? 02:13:20.709 --> 02:13:24.631 That is so typical, and it does not occur in any other disease. 02:13:25.111 --> 02:13:26.812 So it is caused by the vaccine. 02:13:27.452 --> 02:13:40.638 Now, moreover, you can now find the vaccine by immunohistochemical staining, and the spike protein has been found, okay, all over the bodies of these guys. 02:13:41.198 --> 02:13:44.780 So it's proven that causality is there. 02:13:45.220 --> 02:13:47.041 And now I come to one last thing. 02:13:47.521 --> 02:13:49.102 You know that the U.S. 02:13:50.350 --> 02:13:55.951 National Academy of Sciences, which is sort of like the Royal Society in England. 02:13:57.352 --> 02:14:00.412 It published this paper in April 2024. 02:14:01.152 --> 02:14:12.555 It had set up a commission, a committee, to find out whether they could show causality between 02:14:14.105 --> 02:14:20.808 any of these diseases that people got after vaccination and the vaccination itself? 02:14:21.548 --> 02:14:39.797 And you probably know that the answer was, we have regrettably not been able to firmly or absolutely establish causation in any of these 500 conditions with one exception, right? 02:14:41.497 --> 02:14:42.658 You know what the exception was? 02:14:44.284 --> 02:14:48.870 No, you don't, but it's written, you can, this is published. 02:14:50.331 --> 02:14:52.174 Rheumatic myocarditis. 02:14:52.788 --> 02:14:53.468 Oh, yes, of course. 02:14:53.488 --> 02:14:53.669 Yeah. 02:14:54.549 --> 02:14:56.430 Yeah, but but this is very important. 02:14:57.351 --> 02:15:13.220 And they stated, further research into this area will not lead to any other conclusion, meaning that if anyone who was previously healthy, got vaccinated, and then subsequently got a myocarditis, 02:15:14.261 --> 02:15:16.362 causality is proven. 02:15:17.043 --> 02:15:18.043 You don't have to do anything. 02:15:18.403 --> 02:15:19.244 You can go to court. 02:15:19.764 --> 02:15:26.828 But a lot of people don't understand the importance of what that, you know, what it means when they're admitting myocarditis occurs. 02:15:27.908 --> 02:15:32.351 So the essential thing, I don't care. 02:15:32.371 --> 02:15:40.095 I just wanted to make the point that, you know, that you could have a subclinical myocarditis attack, 02:15:40.535 --> 02:15:44.456 which could shorten your life by 10 to 20 years and no one would ever know. 02:15:45.017 --> 02:15:52.439 But Stephen, okay, look, this I have also written in my autobiography, in the extended version. 02:15:52.519 --> 02:15:53.679 It's all there, okay? 02:15:54.260 --> 02:15:55.040 Anyone can read it. 02:15:55.560 --> 02:16:02.782 It's appearing in 40 languages, so don't say that there was no way to know. 02:16:02.903 --> 02:16:05.763 There is a simple way to know, just read it, okay? 02:16:05.884 --> 02:16:10.065 It's a very short book, but it contains all the essential information. 02:16:10.393 --> 02:16:27.509 So another thing that you brilliantly pointed out in early 2021 when we were doing the letters to the European Medicines Agency, you said, you postulated, you hypothesized that the biggest problem would occur in vessels of slow blood flow. 02:16:27.529 --> 02:16:36.176 And then you went on to say in the brain that the worst place in your opinion was the cerebral venous sinus. 02:16:38.078 --> 02:16:41.582 And so the risk was you could get venous sinus, cerebral venous sinus thrombosis. 02:16:42.082 --> 02:16:43.183 Not the worst case. 02:16:43.363 --> 02:16:44.184 It wasn't the worst. 02:16:44.485 --> 02:16:45.826 It would also take place there. 02:16:46.366 --> 02:16:51.091 In fact, all small vessels and veins of the brain, all. 02:16:51.752 --> 02:16:54.334 And that's what has been found now. 02:16:55.215 --> 02:17:03.499 But then, if you remember the third letter so quick, you then brilliantly used your, no, but you're so modest. 02:17:04.260 --> 02:17:10.403 You said you've got this slow blood flow in the cerebral sinus thrombosis. 02:17:10.423 --> 02:17:16.206 You thought that was a possibility that there would be a huge rise in the incidence of that. 02:17:17.466 --> 02:17:20.468 And then you said anyone with headache, for example, 02:17:20.848 --> 02:17:23.575 needs to be investigated with that in mind. 02:17:24.016 --> 02:17:25.159 Very important point. 02:17:27.179 --> 02:17:27.479 Yes. 02:17:28.019 --> 02:17:33.241 All right, Sukrit, we're letting you go and we're going to end this meeting. 02:17:33.261 --> 02:17:37.663 But the point about that, the point about that, Sukrit, so viewers may not understand. 02:17:37.703 --> 02:17:47.787 So the point is that the, you know, VAERS, for example, it could be reported that someone's got headache, you know, or millions have got headache, you know, but it was a minor thing. 02:17:48.067 --> 02:17:55.750 But actually it could be, it could be a diagnosis of a subclinical or relatively subclinical CVST. 02:17:57.915 --> 02:17:59.316 All right, because I'm going to leave. 02:17:59.336 --> 02:18:03.117 But let me give you one last piece of information, OK? 02:18:04.418 --> 02:18:21.966 Austrian doctors, a little team, have found out that there's one very simple method to find out whether the capillaries in the body are, yeah, 02:18:23.726 --> 02:18:27.929 a non abnormal, because compromised, compromised. 02:18:28.690 --> 02:18:35.074 And this is the what is called nail bed, finger bed, capillary microscopy. 02:18:36.855 --> 02:18:37.056 Yeah. 02:18:37.656 --> 02:18:42.880 So there's an instrument where you can just see the capillaries of the nail bed. 02:18:43.720 --> 02:18:49.705 And the first patients that have been looked at are extremely promising because they found 02:18:54.088 --> 02:18:59.310 disturbances that could then be treated, okay? 02:19:01.051 --> 02:19:13.115 And so, Stephen, I want to give this to you, as a doctor, so that you spread the information that this, I don't know, nail bed capillarscopy, I think it's called, yeah, 02:19:13.715 --> 02:19:26.516 It could be a simple method for any doctor in the world to use to diagnose vaccine-mediated vascular injury. 02:19:28.115 --> 02:19:31.416 non-invasive, it's cheap, and it's simple. 02:19:31.917 --> 02:19:36.918 I can't do it, but the textbooks tell you how to do it. 02:19:38.679 --> 02:19:39.759 I probably can't do it either. 02:19:39.859 --> 02:19:43.740 I could probably find someone who could. 02:19:44.141 --> 02:19:45.121 Someone put it in the chat. 02:19:45.341 --> 02:19:46.281 It's so great. 02:19:46.301 --> 02:19:47.522 It's a nail bed. 02:19:48.082 --> 02:19:48.342 What? 02:19:50.463 --> 02:19:52.003 Yeah, something like that. 02:19:52.663 --> 02:19:52.923 Right. 02:19:56.621 --> 02:19:57.422 You can research it. 02:19:57.622 --> 02:19:59.463 You can research it today, Charles. 02:19:59.583 --> 02:20:01.344 You're beginning your day in Australia. 02:20:02.745 --> 02:20:03.686 I'm not going to research it. 02:20:03.706 --> 02:20:05.567 Someone will put it into the chat. 02:20:06.588 --> 02:20:08.049 I was joking, Charles. 02:20:08.889 --> 02:20:11.751 I think it's a capillaroscopy. 02:20:12.432 --> 02:20:14.273 Siobhan has put it in. 02:20:14.333 --> 02:20:19.056 Nail bed capillaroscopy test to diagnose vaccine-mediated vascular injury. 02:20:19.076 --> 02:20:19.836 Thank you, Siobhan. 02:20:19.876 --> 02:20:20.397 Well noted. 02:20:23.674 --> 02:20:24.034 Very good. 02:20:24.235 --> 02:20:24.975 Thank you, Sukrit. 02:20:25.035 --> 02:20:27.378 Okay, we've got a whole two and a half hours. 02:20:27.458 --> 02:20:30.041 Sukrit, you've done brilliantly. 02:20:30.061 --> 02:20:32.023 Go and do some meditation now. 02:20:32.483 --> 02:20:39.451 And we pointed out there's a comment in the chat about the placebo effect. 02:20:39.491 --> 02:20:41.953 Of course, there's a placebo effect where 02:20:44.156 --> 02:20:50.484 not only 99.999% empty space, we're entirely empty space, so that your thoughts create it. 02:20:50.804 --> 02:20:52.967 Sukriti, you were talking about the mind-body-spirit. 02:20:53.007 --> 02:20:54.489 That's exactly what it's about. 02:20:54.509 --> 02:20:56.251 Take off one of the legs and they're stuffed. 02:20:56.331 --> 02:20:59.074 So, James, thank you for your contribution. 02:20:59.114 --> 02:21:00.656 Thank you to everyone for your contribution. 02:21:00.676 --> 02:21:01.597 Thank you for the wonderful 02:21:02.418 --> 02:21:15.606 contributions to the chat, and we've got lots of work to do everybody, so time to come to these meetings so that you realize we've got another three years of hard work ahead of us, so no getting tired and look after your health. 02:21:15.646 --> 02:21:16.727 Sukrit, thank you so much. 02:21:16.747 --> 02:21:18.048 Big round of applause, everybody. 02:21:18.068 --> 02:21:20.369 Oh yes, very good. 02:21:20.489 --> 02:21:20.730 Thank you. 02:21:20.770 --> 02:21:23.371 Thank you all. 02:21:23.551 --> 02:21:24.192 Thank you all. 02:21:25.032 --> 02:21:26.954 Still drawing applause, Sukrit. 02:21:27.094 --> 02:21:28.074 I know you're modest, but 02:21:31.847 --> 02:21:32.308 OK. 02:21:32.808 --> 02:21:33.169 Thank you. 02:21:33.789 --> 02:21:34.390 Thanks, everybody. 02:21:34.410 --> 02:21:35.150 Thanks, Stephen. 02:21:36.091 --> 02:21:36.472 Bye-bye. 02:21:36.772 --> 02:21:37.313 Bye, everybody. 02:21:37.333 --> 02:21:38.013 Thank you, Charles. 02:21:39.294 --> 02:21:39.695 Well done. 02:21:41.356 --> 02:21:42.017 Thanks, everybody. 02:21:47.963 --> 02:21:49.424 So what do people think? 02:21:49.464 --> 02:21:54.509 Do you think we should have multiple guests, conversations? 02:21:55.660 --> 02:21:57.121 Just one guest at a time. 02:21:57.161 --> 02:21:58.202 That's a big conversation. 02:21:58.242 --> 02:21:59.584 We'll hold it. 02:21:59.604 --> 02:22:04.048 But there's Tom Rodman's got to have a conversation in the video telegram meeting, Stephen, with Tom Rodman. 02:22:04.068 --> 02:22:04.708 That's a good idea. 02:22:05.669 --> 02:22:06.069 Sure, yeah.